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Text 1717, 155 rader
Skriven 2005-01-02 16:29:36 av Geo (1:379/45)
   Kommentar till text 1697 av Rich (1:379/45)
Ärende: Re: Usage history
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From: "Geo" <georger@nls.net>

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Most folks may not be paranoid but they are getting there.

As for your ISP, you are correct, if you don't trust them then find a = better
ISP. But that's not even close to the risk level I was talking = about. I'll
give you an example.

The other day my mother-in-law asked me to patch her laptop for her. = Wife
brought it home and I booted it and up comes XP with her name = showing on the
login so I clicked on it and it autologged in as her. I'm = sitting there at
this point thinking wouldn't this be wonderful if = someone stole her laptop.
So tell me how much should I trust the people = who wrote this login software?
Do you think it gave her all kinds of = warnings about how dangerous it is to
allow autologins especially on a = laptop or do you think they just made it
really easy for her to bypass = all the security in NT with the touch of a
button?

This is what I was saying before, it's not a question of passport, it's = a
question of people not trusting their computers. Go to a webpage and = get
rooted, have someone steal your laptop with autologin, this is not = the type
of a device you trust with your passwords, credit card numbers, = or financial
records and people are realizing this.

Geo.
  "Rich" <@> wrote in message news:41d78097$1@w3.nls.net...
     Nope.  With single sign-in you have the choice and can balance =
between your paranoia and ease of use.  In case you really are clueless, = most
folks are not paranoid.

     What you should really fear if you are the paranoid type is your =
ISP.  They can see and track everything you do.  It makes paranoia about = the
little bit of your activity that is authentication seem just silly.

  Rich

    "Geo" <georger@nls.net> wrote in message news:41d775e4@w3.nls.net...
    "Rich" <@> wrote in message news:41d760be$1@w3.nls.net...

    >> If you want to authenticate but fear that someone may try to make
    correlations between your usage, use multiple identities.<<

    Kinda goes against the single login method of passport does it not?

    Geo.


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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Most folks may not be paranoid but they =
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>As for your ISP, you are correct, if =
you don't=20
trust them then find a better ISP. But that's not even close to the risk =
level I=20
was talking about. I'll give you an example.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>The other day my mother-in-law asked me =
to patch=20
her laptop for her. Wife brought it home and I booted it and up comes XP =
with=20
her name showing on the login so I clicked on it and it autologged in as =
her.=20
I'm sitting there at this point thinking wouldn't this be wonderful if =
someone=20
stole her laptop. So tell me how much should I trust the people who = wrote
this=20
login software? Do you think it gave her all kinds of warnings about how =

dangerous it is to allow autologins especially on a laptop or do you = think
they=20
just made it really easy for her to bypass all the security in NT with = the
touch=20
of a button?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>This is what I was saying before, it's =
not a=20
question of passport, it's a question of people not trusting their = computers.
Go=20
to a webpage and get rooted, have someone steal your laptop with = autologin,
this=20
is not the type of a device you trust with your passwords, credit card =
numbers,=20
or financial records and people are realizing this.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Geo.</FONT></DIV>
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  <DIV>"Rich" &lt;@&gt; wrote in message <A=20
  =
href=3D"news:41d78097$1@w3.nls.net">news:41d78097$1@w3.nls.net</A>...</DI=
V>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp; Nope.&nbsp; With single =
sign-in you=20
  have the choice and can balance between your paranoia and ease of =
use.&nbsp;=20
  In case you really are clueless, most folks are not =
paranoid.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp; What you should really =
fear if you=20
  are the paranoid type is your ISP.&nbsp; They can see and track =
everything you=20
  do.&nbsp; It makes paranoia about the little bit of your activity that =
is=20
  authentication seem just silly.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Rich</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
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    <DIV>"Geo" &lt;<A =
href=3D"mailto:georger@nls.net">georger@nls.net</A>&gt;=20
    wrote in message <A=20
    =
href=3D"news:41d775e4@w3.nls.net">news:41d775e4@w3.nls.net</A>...</DIV>"R=
ich"=20
    &lt;@&gt; wrote in message <A=20
    =
href=3D"news:41d760be$1@w3.nls.net">news:41d760be$1@w3.nls.net</A>...<BR>=
<BR>&gt;&gt;=20
    If you want to authenticate but fear that someone may try to=20
    make<BR>correlations between your usage, use multiple=20
    identities.&lt;&lt;<BR><BR>Kinda goes against the single login =
method of=20
    passport does it=20
not?<BR><BR>Geo.<BR><BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>

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