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Skriven 2005-01-08 10:11:16 av Mike '/m' (1:379/45)
   Kommentar till text 1680 av Geo (1:379/45)
Ärende: Re: Microsoft to back off Passport Service
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From: Mike '/m' <mike@barkto.com>



An interesting facet of all this, doubleclick does not seem to have trouble
being accepted by various websites.  Yet those websites are very dubious of
Passport.  I have to wonder why websites are more willing to partner with
doubleclick than Microsoft?  Is the perception that Microsoft is *that*
untrustworthy that few wanted to buy into their Passport service?

That would explain the flood of Microsoft corp-gen* ads that I've been seeing
on TV.

 /m


*) corp-gen -  ad-industry-speak for "corporate general" advertising.  Ads
that are more focused on bettering the image of a corporation, than in selling
any  product.  Walmart is now embarking on a corp-gen ad campaign to polish up
its tarnished image.



On Sat, 1 Jan 2005 13:06:41 -0500, "Geo" <georger@nls.net> wrote:

>Well I'm one of the ones who refused to use passport, in fact it's one of the
reasons I dropped out of all windows beta testing (because they required
passport). My reasoning was two fold. First, if I wanted the computer to
remember my login information for a site, as you mentioned, I had the IE
password manager which I would use for unimportant sites like the NYT and such
but any site where I buy stuff I would always tell it to NOT remember me.
>
>Second, a single multiple site signin/tracking service I personally view as
too invasive.
>
>So, what was it, the users not using passport or sites not using passport that
has reduced Microsoft's interest in persuing passport with the vigor they once
had for it?
>
>Geo.
>  "Rich" <@> wrote in message news:41d6dacc@w3.nls.net...
>     I disagree.  First, Passport is not that.  The person at the keyboard
must still confirm who he is.
>
>     Second, if you look at some of the folks, who likely don't use Passport,
posting to the recent slashdot item on Passport, say that they perceived it as
similar to their running a password manager app on the client.  This folks
obviously do want to automate the process.  Third, IE and other browsers
contain password managers and people use them.  Lastly, you have people that
use the same user name and password wherever they can and keep it all written
on post-its by the computer.  They are just trying to make it easier.
>
>     In other words, one, people clearly do want to automate this.  Two,
Passport is not the same.  It provides single sign-in where you have one
identity (per passport) at multiple sites not multiple identities, one per
site.
>
>  Rich
>
>    "Geo" <georger@nls.net> wrote in message news:41d67050@w3.nls.net...
>    Glad to see you are still around Rich, I was beginning to miss your
comments. My point was that the people who use the internet the most aren't so
stupid that they want a service to replace or automate the process of
confirming the person at the keyboard is the account holder.
>
>    Geo.
>      "Rich" <@> wrote in message news:41d5f1fb@w3.nls.net...
>         Neither of these applies to Passport so if you are going to make junk
up you could make up worse.
>
>      Rich
>
>        "Geo" <georger@nls.net> wrote in message news:41d496f9@w3.nls.net...
>        "Mike '/m'" <mike@barkto.com> wrote in message
>        news:u9u8t0t30rsmkkkd5oc12v947d72a0vu32@4ax.com...
>
>        > It boiled down to too few people trusting Microsoft with their
personal
>        data.
>
>        It boiled down to too few people trusting their computer with their
credit
>        card number. Sort of like what's the point of a password if the
computer is
>        going to enter it for you..
>
>        Geo.

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