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Text 1811, 163 rader
Skriven 2005-01-08 11:57:26 av Rich (1:379/45)
   Kommentar till text 1808 av Mike N. (1:379/45)
Ärende: Re: Usage history
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From: "Rich" <@>

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   I stand by what wrote.  You can refuse to answer questions or clarify =
what you wrote earlier or simply continue to change the topic and post =
nonsense.  Maybe you would like to make a point instead of rambling.

Rich

  "Mike N." <mike@u-spam-u-die.net> wrote in message =
news:gj60u01g1qktsgfh0aqqp201lpvlsqs6m1@4ax.com...
  On Fri, 7 Jan 2005 23:27:24 -0800, "Rich" <@> wrote:

  >   The rest of your message is bogus.  It's not hard to find scary =
stuff if you don't need to be truthful.

     So Microsoft never associated Passport with the Microsoft Wallet /
  Express purchase?

     So there never was a password reset vulnerability that would have
  allowed anyone to reset any Passport account and assume that signon?

  >
  >  "Mike N." <mike@u-spam-u-die.net> wrote in message =
news:4n2tt0dg641ld1fi4ujvhmfcnl9d7dps1l@4ax.com...
  >  On Thu, 6 Jan 2005 18:57:47 -0800, "Rich" <@> wrote:
  >
  >  >Maybe you didn't intend to make any connection between Passport
  >  >and saving credit card numbers but if so you not only failed to =
make
  >  >a distinction, you pretty clearly made a connection.=20
  >
  >     Since you seem to be avoiding discussing certain things Passport =
has
  >  been associated with, how about clarifying what it is?  Is it=20
  >    o single signon
  >    o role-authorization management
  >    o identity manager
  >    o information manager
  >
  >  ??
  >
  >     Although there is nothing wrong with the core idea of the single
  >  identity, it has been paired with a number of things by Microsoft :
  >  Hotmail, Microsoft Wallet, Express Purchase, etc.   The Unwashed =
Masses see
  >  it as putting all eggs into a public electronic basket; a single =
point of
  >  vulnerability which gives up everything if compromised.
  >
  >  http://www.securityfocus.com/news/4575
  >  "Using Passport, consumers could entrust Microsoft or other =
organizations
  >  to centrally hold their personal information -- such as credit card =
numbers
  >  or medical records -- and make it available whenever needed."
  >
  >     Scary stuff.
  >

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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp; I stand by =
what&nbsp;wrote.&nbsp; You=20
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continue to change the topic and post nonsense.&nbsp; Maybe you would = like
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make a point instead of rambling.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Rich</FONT></DIV>
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  <DIV>"Mike N." &lt;<A=20
  href=3D"mailto:mike@u-spam-u-die.net">mike@u-spam-u-die.net</A>&gt; =
wrote in=20
  message <A=20
  =
href=3D"news:gj60u01g1qktsgfh0aqqp201lpvlsqs6m1@4ax.com">news:gj60u01g1qk=
tsgfh0aqqp201lpvlsqs6m1@4ax.com</A>...</DIV>On=20
  Fri, 7 Jan 2005 23:27:24 -0800, "Rich" &lt;@&gt;=20
  wrote:<BR><BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp; The rest of your message is =
bogus.&nbsp; It's=20
  not hard to find scary stuff if you don't need to be=20
  truthful.<BR><BR><BR>&nbsp;&nbsp; So Microsoft never associated =
Passport with=20
  the Microsoft Wallet /<BR>Express purchase?<BR><BR>&nbsp;&nbsp; So =
there never=20
  was a password reset vulnerability that would have<BR>allowed anyone =
to reset=20
  any Passport account and assume that =
signon?<BR><BR><BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;&nbsp;=20
  "Mike N." &lt;<A=20
  href=3D"mailto:mike@u-spam-u-die.net">mike@u-spam-u-die.net</A>&gt; =
wrote in=20
  message <A=20
  =
href=3D"news:4n2tt0dg641ld1fi4ujvhmfcnl9d7dps1l@4ax.com">news:4n2tt0dg641=
ld1fi4ujvhmfcnl9d7dps1l@4ax.com</A>...<BR>&gt;&nbsp;=20
  On Thu, 6 Jan 2005 18:57:47 -0800, "Rich" &lt;@&gt;=20
  wrote:<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;&nbsp; &gt;Maybe you didn't intend to make any=20
  connection between Passport<BR>&gt;&nbsp; &gt;and saving credit card =
numbers=20
  but if so you not only failed to make<BR>&gt;&nbsp; &gt;a distinction, =
you=20
  pretty clearly made a connection. =
<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
  Since you seem to be avoiding discussing certain things Passport=20
  has<BR>&gt;&nbsp; been associated with, how about clarifying what it =
is?&nbsp;=20
  Is it <BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; o single =
signon<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; o=20
  role-authorization management<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; o identity=20
  manager<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; o information =
manager<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;&nbsp;=20
  ??<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Although there is nothing =
wrong=20
  with the core idea of the single<BR>&gt;&nbsp; identity, it has been =
paired=20
  with a number of things by Microsoft :<BR>&gt;&nbsp; Hotmail, =
Microsoft=20
  Wallet, Express Purchase, etc.&nbsp;&nbsp; The Unwashed Masses=20
  see<BR>&gt;&nbsp; it as putting all eggs into a public electronic =
basket; a=20
  single point of<BR>&gt;&nbsp; vulnerability which gives up everything =
if=20
  compromised.<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;&nbsp; <A=20
  =
href=3D"http://www.securityfocus.com/news/4575">http://www.securityfocus.=
com/news/4575</A><BR>&gt;&nbsp;=20
  "Using Passport, consumers could entrust Microsoft or other=20
  organizations<BR>&gt;&nbsp; to centrally hold their personal =
information --=20
  such as credit card numbers<BR>&gt;&nbsp; or medical records -- and =
make it=20
  available whenever needed."<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
Scary=20
  stuff.<BR>&gt;<BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>

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