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Skriven 2007-05-22 01:13:54 av Rich (1:379/45)
Kommentar till text 18153 av Ad (1:379/45)
Ärende: Re: Your next PC is... a phone
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From: "Rich" <@>
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Smartphones do not have anywhere near the I/O perf and capacity of =
PCs even those few years old. Sure I can add a memory card to my phone = but I
could add slow memory to PCs from years ago. My PC of several = years back had
a terrabyte of storage. Phones are nowhere close. RAM = of a phone, not flash
storage, is low and usually in the tens or if = lucky the hundreds of megabytes
not gigabytes. Display size of phones = is tiny. Human interface input
limited though because perf is not an = issue you can use a bluetooth PC
keyboard with some phones such as mine.
All in all, a phone makes a crappy PC. I very much like my =
smartphone and it is good at what it does. It doesn't do what a PC does = nor
is it as good as a PC for many of the things the phone can do like = email and
web access.
I'll believe you believe your nonsense when you get rid of all the =
PCs you and your family have at home and use only your phones.
Rich
"Ad" <Dobbin@theStablesCloseToTheAirport.com> wrote in message =
news:46528664$1@w3.nls.net...
Rich wrote:
> My dumb=20
remote control that came with my TV has a general purpose
> CPU. Is that a PC too? I think not. Form factor makes a =
significant=20
> difference just like I/O capability and capacity.
> =20
Indeed & now smartphones are getting the IO & capacity of PC'es of =
only=20
a few years ago & then you oddly didn't have a problem with calling=20
machines of that capacity PC'es.
How odd.
Gee my phone has 2gb persistent storage. It took years & years of PC=20
ownership before I got a machine with 2gb of persistent storage.
Adam
> Rich
> =20
>=20
> "Ad" <Dobbin@theStablesCloseToTheAirport.com
> <mailto:Dobbin@theStablesCloseToTheAirport.com>> wrote in =
message
> news:46516530@w3.nls.net...
> Rich wrote:
> > You made comparison on CPU power which you edited out of =
this
> message
> > maybe to hide that.
>=20
> Rubbish. I just dislike massive quotebacks as most people assume =
that
> threading is there for that vs having the entire thread in each =
post.
>=20
> I did make a comparison on CPU power but CPU power is not what =
makes a
> mainframe where instead it's stuff like IO etc.
>=20
> I'd hate to assume you know something as basic as that though =
however
> one wonders why you used a mainframe if you were simply talking =
about
> CPU power.
>=20
> > That comparison is bogus just as much for PCs as it
> > is for mainframes.
> >
>=20
> Rubbish. A GPCPU is a GPCPU. The form factor changes nothing.
>=20
> Do you have a CPU, RAM & persistent storage? If so what is the =
speed of
> the system as a whole?
>=20
>=20
>=20
> > Now you are trying to make a silly comparison over how or =
when
> folks
> > use the term "computer". To point out how silly this is, I =
have
> been
> > told that my personal car has a number of "computers" in it. =
What
> > rediculous claims do you want to make about that?
> >=20
>=20
> Depends on what they do. I have a friend who has installed a
> computer in
> his car which plays films, MP3 etc. I believe it's a small cold =
running
> via cpu based device & currently runs linux but could run an =
obscure
> operating system called "Windows" & is accessed through either a
> touchscreen &/or a bluetooth keyboard.
>=20
>=20
> I suppose that since it can run "Windows" it should be =
discounted as
> being a computer & instead be classified as an "entertainment
> device" or
> possibly "electronic toy".
>=20
>=20
> Adam
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2> Smartphones do not have =
anywhere near=20
the I/O perf and capacity of PCs even those few years old. = Sure I
can=20
add a memory card to my phone but I could add slow memory to PCs from =
years=20
ago. My PC of several years back had a terrabyte of storage. =
Phones=20
are nowhere close. RAM of a phone, not flash storage, is low and =
usually=20
in the tens or if lucky the hundreds of megabytes not gigabytes. =
Display=20
size of phones is tiny. Human interface input limited though = because
perf=20
is not an issue you can use a bluetooth PC keyboard with some phones = such
as=20
mine.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2> All in all, a phone makes =
a crappy=20
PC. I very much like my smartphone and it is good at what it =
does. =20
It doesn't do what a PC does nor is it as good as a PC for many of the =
things=20
the phone can do like email and web access.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2> I'll believe you believe =
your nonsense=20
when you get rid of all the PCs you and your family have at home and use =
only=20
your phones.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Rich</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
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<DIV>"Ad" <<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:Dobbin@theStablesCloseToTheAirport.com">Dobbin@theStablesC=
loseToTheAirport.com</A>>=20
wrote in message <A=20
=
href=3D"news:46528664$1@w3.nls.net">news:46528664$1@w3.nls.net</A>...</DI=
V>Rich=20
wrote:<BR><BR>> My dumb <BR>remote control that =
came with=20
my TV has a general purpose<BR>> CPU. Is that a PC too? =
I think=20
not. Form factor makes a significant <BR>> difference just =
like I/O=20
capability and capacity.<BR>> <BR><BR>Indeed & now =
smartphones=20
are getting the IO & capacity of PC'es of only <BR>a few years ago =
&=20
then you oddly didn't have a problem with calling <BR>machines of that =
capacity PC'es.<BR><BR>How odd.<BR><BR>Gee my phone has 2gb persistent =
storage. It took years & years of PC <BR>ownership before I got a =
machine=20
with 2gb of persistent storage.<BR><BR>Adam<BR><BR><BR>> =
Rich<BR>> =20
<BR>> <BR>> "Ad" <<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:Dobbin@theStablesCloseToTheAirport.com">Dobbin@theStablesC=
loseToTheAirport.com</A><BR>> =20
<<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:Dobbin@theStablesCloseToTheAirport.com">mailto:Dobbin@theS=
tablesCloseToTheAirport.com</A>>>=20
wrote in message<BR>> <A=20
=
href=3D"news:46516530@w3.nls.net">news:46516530@w3.nls.net</A>...<BR>>=
=20
Rich wrote:<BR>> =
> You=20
made comparison on CPU power which you edited out of=20
this<BR>> =20
message<BR>> > maybe to hide =
that.<BR>>=20
<BR>> Rubbish. I just dislike massive =
quotebacks as=20
most people assume that<BR>> threading is =
there for=20
that vs having the entire thread in each post.<BR>>=20
<BR>> I did make a comparison on CPU power =
but CPU=20
power is not what makes a<BR>> mainframe =
where=20
instead it's stuff like IO etc.<BR>> =
<BR>> I'd=20
hate to assume you know something as basic as that though=20
however<BR>> one wonders why you used a =
mainframe=20
if you were simply talking about<BR>> CPU=20
power.<BR>> <BR>> > That =
comparison is=20
bogus just as much for PCs as it<BR>> =
> is=20
for mainframes.<BR>> ><BR>>=20
<BR>> Rubbish. A GPCPU is a GPCPU. The form =
factor=20
changes nothing.<BR>> <BR>> Do you have =
a CPU,=20
RAM & persistent storage? If so what is the speed=20
of<BR>> the system as a whole?<BR>> =
<BR>>=20
<BR>> <BR>> > =
Now you=20
are trying to make a silly comparison over how or=20
when<BR>> =20
folks<BR>> > use the term=20
"computer". To point out how silly this is, I=20
have<BR>> =20
been<BR>> > told that my personal =
car has=20
a number of "computers" in it. =20
What<BR>> > rediculous claims do =
you want=20
to make about that?<BR>> > =
<BR>>=20
<BR>> Depends on what they do. I have a =
friend who=20
has installed a<BR>> computer=20
in<BR>> his car which plays films, MP3 etc. =
I=20
believe it's a small cold running<BR>> via =
cpu=20
based device & currently runs linux but could run an=20
obscure<BR>> operating system called =
"Windows"=20
& is accessed through either a<BR>> =
touchscreen=20
&/or a bluetooth keyboard.<BR>> <BR>>=20
<BR>> I suppose that since it can run =
"Windows" it=20
should be discounted as<BR>> being a =
computer &=20
instead be classified as an =
"entertainment<BR>> =20
device" or<BR>> possibly "electronic =
toy".<BR>>=20
<BR>> <BR>> =
Adam</BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>
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