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Text 1849, 218 rader
Skriven 2005-01-09 17:18:38 av Rich (1:379/45)
   Kommentar till text 1848 av Mike N. (1:379/45)
Ärende: Re: Privacy policies and required by law
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From: "Rich" <@>

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   If you believe you have not run into other services that release =
information required by law then you must have never looked.

   From http://www.google.com/privacy.html.  They go further and claim =
they can share your PII if they believe it is in there interest to do = so.

  a.. We do not rent or sell your personally identifying information to =
other companies or individuals, unless we have your consent. We may = share
such information in any of the following limited circumstances:=20
    a.. ...
    b.. We conclude that we are required by law or have a good faith =
belief that access, preservation or disclosure of such information is =
reasonably necessary to protect the rights, property or safety of = Google, its
users or the public.=20

   From http://privacy.yahoo.com/privacy/us/

  Yahoo! does not rent, sell, or share personal information about you =
with other people or nonaffiliated companies except to provide products = or
services you've requested, when we have your permission, or under the =
following circumstances:=20
    a.. ...
    b.. We respond to subpoenas, court orders, or legal process, or to =
establish or exercise our legal rights or defend against legal claims;=20
    c.. We believe it is necessary to share information in order to =
investigate, prevent, or take action regarding illegal activities, = suspected
fraud, situations involving potential threats to the physical = safety of any
person, violations of Yahoo!'s terms of use, or as = otherwise required by law.
=20

   From http://www.redhat.com/legal/privacy_statement.html

  Red Hat may disclose your personal information to third parties under =
any of the following circumstances:

    a.. ...
    b.. As required by law (such as responding to a valid subpoena, =
warrant, audit, or agency action, or to prevent fraud). For research =
activities, including the production of statistical reports (such = aggregated
information is used to describe our services to current and = prospective
partners and other third parties, and is not used to contact = the subjects of
the report).=20

These are the very first three I looked at.  I don't know where you are =
looking.  It's not like these statements are doing anything except = stating
the obvious which is that if these companies are required by law = to do
something that will do it.  Some go beyond that.

Rich

  "Mike N." <mike@u-spam-u-die.net> wrote in message =
news:vlg3u0t8f9slq8rucpakd9h1p81negufc2@4ax.com...
  On Sun, 9 Jan 2005 10:04:25 -0800, "Rich" <@> wrote:

  >  The fragment you chose to quote is interesting.=20
  > How many services claim that they do not disclose info as required =
by law?

    I've not run into any services like that.  This privacy page is a =
typical
  page reminding everyone that the information is there for the taking =
when
  necessary.

  >   The rest is garbage.

     I can only infer from this statement that if someone gets my =
Passport
  login/E-mail address and password, it is useless to them.

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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp; If you believe you have =
not run into=20
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never=20
looked.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp; From <A=20
href=3D"http://www.google.com/privacy.html">http://www.google.com/privacy=
.html</A>.&nbsp;=20
They go further and claim they can share your PII if they believe it is = in
there=20
interest to do so.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV><FONT face=3DArial =
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<UL>
  <LI><FONT color=3D#008000>We do not rent or sell your personally =
identifying=20
  information to other companies or individuals, unless we have your =
consent. We=20
  may share such information in any of the following limited =
circumstances:=20
  </FONT></LI><FONT size=3D-1>
  <UL>
    <LI><FONT color=3D#008000>...</FONT>
    <LI><FONT color=3D#008000>We conclude that we are required by law or =
have a=20
    good faith belief that access, preservation or disclosure of such=20
    information is reasonably necessary to protect the rights, property =
or=20
    safety of Google, its users or the public.</FONT> =
</FONT></LI></UL></UL></FONT>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp; From <A=20
href=3D"http://privacy.yahoo.com/privacy/us/">http://privacy.yahoo.com/pr=
ivacy/us/</A></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman" =
color=3D#008000=20
  size=3D3>Yahoo! does not rent, sell, or share personal information =
about you=20
  with other people or nonaffiliated companies except to provide =
products or=20
  services you've requested, when we have your permission, or under the=20
  following circumstances: </FONT></DIV>
  <UL>
    <LI><FONT color=3D#008000>...</FONT>
    <LI><FONT color=3D#008000>We respond to subpoenas, court orders, or =
legal=20
    process, or to establish or exercise our legal rights or defend =
against=20
    legal claims; </FONT>
    <LI><FONT color=3D#008000>We believe it is necessary to share =
information in=20
    order to investigate, prevent, or take action regarding illegal =
activities,=20
    suspected fraud, situations involving potential threats to the =
physical=20
    safety of any person, violations of Yahoo!'s terms of use, or as =
otherwise=20
    required by law.&nbsp;</FONT>&nbsp;</LI></UL></BLOCKQUOTE></FONT>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp; From <A=20
href=3D"http://www.redhat.com/legal/privacy_statement.html">http://www.re=
dhat.com/legal/privacy_statement.html</A></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr style=3D"MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>
  <P><FONT color=3D#008000>Red Hat may disclose your personal =
information to third=20
  parties under any of the following circumstances:</FONT></P>
  <UL>
    <LI><FONT color=3D#008000>...</FONT>
    <LI><FONT color=3D#008000>As required by law (such as responding to =
a valid=20
    subpoena, warrant, audit, or agency action, or to prevent fraud). =
For=20
    research activities, including the production of statistical reports =
(such=20
    aggregated information is used to describe our services to current =
and=20
    prospective partners and other third parties, and is not used to =
contact the=20
    subjects of the report). </FONT></LI></UL></FONT></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>These are the very first three I looked =
at.&nbsp; I=20
don't know where you are looking.&nbsp; It's not like these statements = are
doing=20
anything except stating the obvious which is that if these companies are =

required by law to do something that will do it.&nbsp; Some go beyond=20
that.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Rich</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
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  <DIV>"Mike N." &lt;<A=20
  href=3D"mailto:mike@u-spam-u-die.net">mike@u-spam-u-die.net</A>&gt; =
wrote in=20
  message <A=20
  =
href=3D"news:vlg3u0t8f9slq8rucpakd9h1p81negufc2@4ax.com">news:vlg3u0t8f9s=
lq8rucpakd9h1p81negufc2@4ax.com</A>...</DIV>On=20
  Sun, 9 Jan 2005 10:04:25 -0800, "Rich" &lt;@&gt; =
wrote:<BR><BR>&gt;&nbsp; The=20
  fragment you chose to quote is interesting. <BR>&gt; How many services =
claim=20
  that they do not disclose info as required by law?<BR><BR>&nbsp; I've =
not run=20
  into any services like that.&nbsp; This privacy page is a =
typical<BR>page=20
  reminding everyone that the information is there for the taking=20
  when<BR>necessary.<BR><BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp; The rest is=20
  garbage.<BR><BR>&nbsp;&nbsp; I can only infer from this statement that =
if=20
  someone gets my Passport<BR>login/E-mail address and password, it is =
useless=20
  to them.<BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>

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