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Skriven 2005-01-09 21:29:38 av Gary Britt (1:379/45)
   Kommentar till text 1843 av John Oellrich (1:379/45)
Ärende: Re: Drive connection standards: EIDE, Serial ATA, Firewire, USB, other?
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From: "Gary Britt" <zotu@nospamforme.com>

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Sorry to hear that.  Hopefully they will pan out for you before they = expire.

Gary
  "John Oellrich" <john@oellrich.us> wrote in message =
news:41e1a70e@w3.nls.net...
  Gary,

  The Lucent stock price doesn't matter to me, my options are sooo far =
under water that it would take a bathysphere to find them ;->

  --=20
  john

  john@oellrich.us
    "Gary Britt" <zotu@nospamforme.com> wrote in message =
news:41e0a0ae$1@w3.nls.net...
    Hey John,  good to see you around!  Lucent stock has sure been on a =
rollercoaster the last 6 months. =20

    Gary
      "John Oellrich" <john@oellrich.us> wrote in message =
news:41df5e04@w3.nls.net...
      Gary,

      I have had it go two ways. BSOD, which means the drive had such an =
incompatible driver on it that it just completely puked over the new = setup,
or just a rough time nursing WinXP through somewhat successful = boots, but
having issues with things like USB or 1394 drivers.

      --=20
      john

      john@oellrich.us
        "Gary Britt" <zotu@nospamforme.com> wrote in message =
news:41de0870$1@w3.nls.net...
        That I don't know, because I never ran NT4, but if you try =
pulling a win2k
        installed hard disk and putting it into a different machine with =
different
        chipset/motherboard and hard drive controller chips.  It will =
blue screen
        with inaccessible boot drive.  I've seen web info where some =
claim that if
        you take the win2k install and delete all special hardware =
devices and get
        everything back to standard vga, standard int13 disk drive =
controllers, etc
        etc., and then put the hard drive in the machine with the new =
motherboard
        and boot up that it will recognize the new hardware devices and =
not
        necessarily blue screen on you.

        Gary

        "Geo" <georger@nls.net> wrote in message =
news:41da0ac9@w3.nls.net...
        > I would think W2K would be more forgiving about hardware =
changes than NT4
        > would.
        >
        > Geo.
        >
        > "Gary Britt" <garyb@nospamforme.com> wrote in message
        > news:41d967b3@w3.nls.net...
        > > I'd suggest swapping out the motherboard before upgrading to =
Win2K.
        > > Otherwise with the hardware changes you might have to =
reinstall Win2K
        all
        > > over again after the motherboard swap.
        > >
        > > Gary
        > >
        > > "Randall Parker" =
<STOPtechieSPAMpunditNOW@STOPfutureSPAMpundit.comNOW>
        > wrote
        > > in message news:41d8e4a9@w3.nls.net...
        > > > Gary,
        > > >
        > > > Initially I just want to plug the drive into a 5 year old =
motherboard
        > and
        > > copy the
        > > > existing old drive's partitions over to it and make it =
bootable (going
        > to
        > > try using
        > > > Acronis Disk Manager to do this). Then a couple of weeks =
later upgrade
        > to
        > > Win2k
        > > > (running NT on this box). Then in a month I intend to swap =
out the
        > > motherboard and
        > > > processor and the new MoBo should have all the fancy UDMA =
mode
        support.
        > > >
        > > > So if initially I'm using older slower modes it is no big =
deal. I just
        > > want it to
        > > > work at each stage of my migration.
        > > >
        > > > I'm doing the upgrade in slow motion with time between =
steps to make
        > sure
        > > each step
        > > > didn't mess up anything.
        > > >
        > > > Gary Britt wrote:
        > > > > Maxtor drives have some good sales going for the past =
few months.  I
        > > have 2
        > > > > Maxtor 160 gb 133 mhz UDMA drives that have 16 mb cache =
and rotation
        > > speed
        > > > > of 7200 rpm.  If your motherboard doesn't support 133 =
mhz UDMA 6
        > modes,
        > > you
        > > > > can do what I did and get a Promise Ultra 133/Tx2 hard =
drive
        > controller.
        > > > > Fry's has these 160 gb Maxtor drives on sale for $129, =
if memory
        > serves.
        > > > >
        > > > > Gary
        > >
        > >
        >
        >


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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Sorry to hear that.&nbsp; Hopefully =
they will pan=20
out for you before they expire.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Gary</FONT></DIV>
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  <DIV>"John Oellrich" &lt;<A=20
  href=3D"mailto:john@oellrich.us">john@oellrich.us</A>&gt; wrote in =
message <A=20
  =
href=3D"news:41e1a70e@w3.nls.net">news:41e1a70e@w3.nls.net</A>...</DIV>
  <DIV>Gary,</DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV>The Lucent stock price doesn't matter to me, my options are sooo =
far=20
  under water that it would take a bathysphere to find them ;-&gt;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT><BR>-- <BR>john</DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><A href=3D"mailto:john@oellrich.us">john@oellrich.us</A></DIV>
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    <DIV>"Gary Britt" &lt;<A=20
    href=3D"mailto:zotu@nospamforme.com">zotu@nospamforme.com</A>&gt; =
wrote in=20
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    =
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V>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Hey John,&nbsp; good to see you =
around!&nbsp;=20
    Lucent stock has sure been on a rollercoaster the last 6 =
months.&nbsp;=20
    </FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Gary</FONT></DIV>
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message=20
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      <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
      <DIV>I have had it go two ways. BSOD, which means the drive had =
such an=20
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the new=20
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successful=20
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drivers.</DIV>
      <DIV><BR>-- <BR>john</DIV>
      <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
      <DIV><A =
href=3D"mailto:john@oellrich.us">john@oellrich.us</A></DIV>
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machine=20
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drive.&nbsp;=20
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message=20
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=20
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Britt"=20
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href=3D"mailto:garyb@nospamforme.com">garyb@nospamforme.com</A>&gt;=20
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=20
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