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Ärende: Re: Up button
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From: "Rich" <@>
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Plenty of others have commented on how this change is an improvement. =
I would have to disagree that you like change. You post a lot on how =
much you dislike change and very rarely on change you like.
Rich
"Geo." <georger@nls.net> wrote in message news:4678a2b0@w3.nls.net...
I like change, when it makes things better.
You need to do some tech support with people who call ISP tech =
support. Tell=20
them to click on the third parent and they'll tell you they only have =
two=20
parents.
Geo.
"Rich" <@> wrote in message news:4677eb73$1@w3.nls.net...
Lovely reasoning which if followed would mean that nothing should =
ever=20
change again. Good luck with that.
As for folks that can tell you the location currently viewed so you =
know=20
they are three levels too deep and can count to three to click three =
times=20
but can't click on the third parent, using the backspace is a fine =
idea.
Rich
"Geo." <georger@nls.net> wrote in message =
news:4677b020$1@w3.nls.net...
and how does the new UI perform a quick 3 clicks on the up arrow? =
You are=20
on
the phone trying to tell someone who is 3 levels too deep to go up =
three
levels and you can't read the directory names, go ahead write up a =
step by
step that works for everyone like "click the up arrow 3 times". Oh =
wait,=20
you
can't do that because the words change depending on where you are..
Sometimes consistency is a good thing. Especially if you do tech =
support.=20
So
now instead of click the up arrow every procedure has to be changed =
to hit
the back space key and explain which is the backspace and which is =
the=20
back
arrow keys..
Imagine what a colossal pain it would be to write a procedure like =
this if
the backspace key didn't work in previous versions, you would need a
different procedure for each version of windows.
Microsoft needs to realize one of the strengths of windows is that=20
everyone
knows how to use it so stop changing how to use it and instead build =
on=20
this
huge advantage.
Geo.
----- Original Message -----=20
From: "Rich" <@>
Newsgroups: homeless.barktopia.technoids
Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2007 12:34 AM
Subject: Re: Up button
Horrible analogy.
The new UI performs an up one level in a single mouse click just =
like=20
the
old fixed purpose button. The new UI performs an up two levels in a =
single
mouse click instead of two. The new UI performs an up three levels =
in a
single mouse click instead of three.
Rich
"Geo." <georger@nls.net> wrote in message =
news:46774ccb$1@w3.nls.net...
We removed the gas and brake pedals in your car, you just push =
back on=20
the
seat to brake and pull on the steering wheel to accelerate, we =
find this
much more intuitive... and since pulling on the wheel increases =
with
acceleration it's actually more efficient.
The up arrow is probably one of the most uses buttons. It was a =
mistake=20
to
remove it and not even leave an option to turn it back on.
Geo. (ever few years I have to forget everything I know about =
computers
and
start from scratch, why?)
"Rich" <@> wrote in message news:46773c52$1@w3.nls.net...
I don't get this. The up one level button was removed because =
the
address bar now has the ability to go up any level by clicking on =
the=20
name
of any component in the hierarchy. It also has the ability to go =
to any
child or sibling of any component by clicking on the down arrow =
before=20
or
after components in the heirarchy.
Rich
"Frank Haber" <frhaber@N0SPMrcn.com> wrote in message
news:467693d0$1@w3.nls.net...
>there is no place to see or modify a tag so what's the point of =
showing
this
>column?
I have very limited experience with Vista Explorer, but I concur
mightily
about the loss of the up button in the file-pick dialogue.
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<DIV> Plenty of others have commented on how this change is =
an=20
improvement. I would have to disagree that you like change. = You
post=20
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like.</DIV>
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<DIV>Rich</DIV>
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<DIV>"Geo." <<A title=3Dmailto:georger@nls.net=20
href=3D"mailto:georger@nls.net">georger@nls.net</A>> wrote in =
message <A=20
title=3Dnews:4678a2b0@w3.nls.net=20
=
href=3D"news:4678a2b0@w3.nls.net">news:4678a2b0@w3.nls.net</A>...</DIV>I =
like=20
change, when it makes things better.<BR><BR>You need to do some tech =
support=20
with people who call ISP tech support. Tell <BR>them to click on the =
third=20
parent and they'll tell you they only have two=20
<BR>parents.<BR><BR>Geo.<BR><BR>"Rich" <@> wrote in message <A=20
title=3Dnews:4677eb73$1@w3.nls.net=20
=
href=3D"news:4677eb73$1@w3.nls.net">news:4677eb73$1@w3.nls.net</A>...<BR>=
=20
Lovely reasoning which if followed would mean that nothing should ever =
<BR>change again. Good luck with that.<BR><BR> As =
for folks=20
that can tell you the location currently viewed so you know <BR>they =
are three=20
levels too deep and can count to three to click three times <BR>but =
can't=20
click on the third parent, using the backspace is a fine=20
idea.<BR><BR>Rich<BR><BR> "Geo." <<A =
title=3Dmailto:georger@nls.net=20
href=3D"mailto:georger@nls.net">georger@nls.net</A>> wrote in =
message <A=20
title=3Dnews:4677b020$1@w3.nls.net=20
=
href=3D"news:4677b020$1@w3.nls.net">news:4677b020$1@w3.nls.net</A>...<BR>=
=20
and how does the new UI perform a quick 3 clicks on the up arrow? You =
are=20
<BR>on<BR> the phone trying to tell someone who is 3 levels too =
deep to=20
go up three<BR> levels and you can't read the directory names, =
go ahead=20
write up a step by<BR> step that works for everyone like "click =
the up=20
arrow 3 times". Oh wait, <BR>you<BR> can't do that because the =
words=20
change depending on where you are..<BR><BR> Sometimes =
consistency is a=20
good thing. Especially if you do tech support. <BR>So<BR> now =
instead of=20
click the up arrow every procedure has to be changed to hit<BR> =
the back=20
space key and explain which is the backspace and which is the=20
<BR>back<BR> arrow keys..<BR><BR> Imagine what a colossal =
pain it=20
would be to write a procedure like this if<BR> the backspace key =
didn't=20
work in previous versions, you would need a<BR> different =
procedure for=20
each version of windows.<BR><BR> Microsoft needs to realize one =
of the=20
strengths of windows is that <BR>everyone<BR> knows how to use =
it so=20
stop changing how to use it and instead build on <BR>this<BR> =
huge=20
advantage.<BR><BR> Geo.<BR><BR> ----- Original Message =
-----=20
<BR> From: "Rich" <@><BR> Newsgroups:=20
homeless.barktopia.technoids<BR> Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2007 =
12:34=20
AM<BR> Subject: Re: Up =
button<BR><BR><BR> =20
Horrible analogy.<BR><BR> The new UI performs =
an up=20
one level in a single mouse click just like <BR>the<BR> old =
fixed=20
purpose button. The new UI performs an up two levels in a=20
<BR>single<BR> mouse click instead of two. The new UI =
performs an=20
up three levels in a<BR> single mouse click instead of=20
three.<BR><BR> Rich<BR><BR> "Geo." <<A=20
title=3Dmailto:georger@nls.net=20
href=3D"mailto:georger@nls.net">georger@nls.net</A>> wrote in =
message <A=20
title=3Dnews:46774ccb$1@w3.nls.net=20
=
href=3D"news:46774ccb$1@w3.nls.net">news:46774ccb$1@w3.nls.net</A>...<BR>=
=20
We removed the gas and brake pedals in your car, you just push back on =
<BR>the<BR> seat to brake and pull on the steering =
wheel to=20
accelerate, we find this<BR> much more intuitive... =
and=20
since pulling on the wheel increases with<BR> =
acceleration=20
it's actually more efficient.<BR><BR> The up arrow =
is=20
probably one of the most uses buttons. It was a mistake=20
<BR>to<BR> remove it and not even leave an option to =
turn it=20
back on.<BR><BR> Geo. (ever few years I have to =
forget=20
everything I know about computers<BR> and<BR> =
start=20
from scratch, why?)<BR><BR> "Rich" <@> wrote =
in=20
message <A title=3Dnews:46773c52$1@w3.nls.net=20
=
href=3D"news:46773c52$1@w3.nls.net">news:46773c52$1@w3.nls.net</A>...<BR>=
=20
I don't get this. The up one level button was removed because=20
the<BR> address bar now has the ability to go up any =
level=20
by clicking on the <BR>name<BR> of any component in =
the=20
hierarchy. It also has the ability to go to =
any<BR> =20
child or sibling of any component by clicking on the down arrow before =
<BR>or<BR> after components in the=20
heirarchy.<BR><BR> =20
Rich<BR><BR> "Frank Haber" <<A=20
title=3Dmailto:frhaber@N0SPMrcn.com=20
href=3D"mailto:frhaber@N0SPMrcn.com">frhaber@N0SPMrcn.com</A>> =
wrote in=20
message<BR> <A title=3Dnews:467693d0$1@w3.nls.net=20
=
href=3D"news:467693d0$1@w3.nls.net">news:467693d0$1@w3.nls.net</A>...<BR>=
=20
>there is no place to see or modify a tag so what's the point of=20
<BR>showing<BR> =
this<BR> =20
>column?<BR><BR> I have very limited=20
experience with Vista Explorer, but I concur<BR> =20
mightily<BR> about the loss of the up =
button in=20
the file-pick dialogue.<BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>
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