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Text 1948, 136 rader
Skriven 2005-01-14 22:56:18 av Rich Gauszka (1:379/45)
   Kommentar till text 1944 av Geo (1:379/45)
Ärende: Re: New FBI computer system a bust
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From: "Rich Gauszka" <gauszka@hotmail.com>

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Well the City of Detroit spent $130 million ( probably much more as DRMS =
money amounts were buried in quite a few departmental budgets ) on an =
accounting system. It was called DRMS ( Dreams ) we referred to it as =
nightmare. They never implemented the HR/payroll portion and eventually = took
out the custom code that they insisted were crucial after they = figured out it
would be impossible to update to future supported levels = of the Oracle
financials. Thankfully I was supporting the 'antiquated' = UNISYS ClearPath
architecture at the time and was able to view the = fiasco from a distance


http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_zdbln/is_200208/ai_ziff29846

In 1997, the City of Detroit announced a plan to revamp its financial =
software with a three-year, $47.9 million project called the Detroit = Resource
Management System, or DRMS, commonly referred to as Dreams. It = should have
been called "nightmares."  The initial plan called for the = integration of 43
departments and 22 computer systems onto a single = system that would run
financial, human resources, and payroll software = from Oracle Corp. Five years
and more than $130 million later, DRMS has = delivered only the financial
applications, and the city has not begun to = implement the HR and payroll
applications that were supposed to be the = project's big payoff.=20

Turf wars prevented useful feedback and criticism from reaching the = right
parties, and training costs for city workers were grievously = underestimated.
Meanwhile, lead integrator IBM Global Services (in the = midst of the Y2K
crunch and overheated dot-com economy) was having = trouble staffing the
project with competent workers, and Oracle's = software=97the same used by
corporations=97couldn't handle all of the = arcana of municipal finance.=20
=20
"Geo" <georger@nls.net> wrote in message news:41e88c3b@w3.nls.net...
  When I designed Fans I got to work on a Federal Bid for welding fume =
exhausters for ships. The crates they wanted them packed in costs 20% = more
than the fan it was holding.

  I still want to see a $170 million dollar computer project.


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<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Well the City of Detroit spent $130 million ( =
probably much=20
more as DRMS money amounts were buried in quite a few departmental = budgets=20
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referred to it=20
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took=20
out the custom code that they insisted were crucial after they figured = out
it=20
would be impossible to update to future supported levels of the Oracle=20
financials. Thankfully I was supporting the 'antiquated' UNISYS = ClearPath=20
architecture at the time and was able to view the fiasco from a=20
distance</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2><A=20
href=3D"http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_zdbln/is_200208/ai_ziff=
29846">http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_zdbln/is_200208/ai_ziff2=
9846</A></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>In 1997, the City of Detroit announced a plan to =
revamp its=20
financial software with a three-year, $47.9 million project called the =
Detroit=20
Resource Management System, or DRMS, commonly referred to as Dreams. It =
should=20
have been called "nightmares."&nbsp; The initial plan called for the =
integration=20
of 43 departments and 22 computer systems onto a single system that = would
run=20
financial, human resources, and payroll software from Oracle Corp. Five =
years=20
and more than $130 million later, DRMS has delivered only the financial=20
applications, and the city has not begun to implement the HR and payroll =

applications that were supposed to be the project's big payoff. =
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Turf wars prevented useful feedback and criticism =
from=20
reaching the right parties, and training costs for city workers were =
grievously=20
underestimated. Meanwhile, lead integrator IBM Global Services (in the = midst
of=20
the Y2K crunch and overheated dot-com economy) was having trouble = staffing
the=20
project with competent workers, and Oracle's software=97the same used by =

corporations=97couldn't handle all of the arcana of municipal finance.=20
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>&nbsp;</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>"Geo" &lt;<A =
href=3D"mailto:georger@nls.net">georger@nls.net</A>&gt; wrote in=20 message <A
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  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>When I designed Fans I got to work on =
a Federal=20
  Bid for welding fume exhausters for ships. The crates they wanted them =
packed=20
  in costs 20% more than the fan it was holding.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I still want to see a $170 million =
dollar=20
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