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Skriven 2005-01-27 18:01:36 av John Oellrich (1:379/45)
   Kommentar till text 2184 av Robert Comer (1:379/45)
Ärende: Re: John's Not So Grand Linux Adventure
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From: "John Oellrich" <john@oellrich.us>

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Bob,

Considering the hardware (PIII 650MHz, rudimentary video controller, and = a
slow 4500RPM hard drive) it seems responsive enough. The 384MB of DRAM = helps
a bunch here I'm sure. But mind you I have spent most of my time = with
installation/re-installation chores. And I'm not really worried = about
performance at this point, this is more a feasibility test to see = if I can
really replace Windows XP and not lose any needed = functionality, especially
with my portable toys, iPod, iPaq, etc.

--=20
john

john@oellrich.us
  "Robert Comer" <bobcomer@mindspring.com> wrote in message =
news:41f84788@w3.nls.net...
  How's the speed of SUSE 9.2 on that machine?  I've heard strange =
things=20
  about 9.2 on some hardware...

  - Bob Comer <I prefer Mandrake>


  "John Oellrich" <john@oellrich.us> wrote in message=20
  news:pan.2005.01.27.00.40.55.538774@oellrich.us...
  > Bunkies,
  >
  > I'm on vacation this week so I decided to try my luck at Linux =
again.
  > Recently read that Novell was making Suse 9.2 Professional a free =
download
  > so I thought I would go that way.
  >
  > As my ThinkPad 600X has been idle for quite some time I decided it =
would
  > be the sacrificial goat. Did a thorough backup of all the data on it =
to
  > DVD.
  >
  > Try the CD/FTP route for installing Suse. Burn the CD but the FTP =
never
  > connects. I'm sure there was something missed here, so I just said =
screw
  > it and downloaded the full DVD ISO image from a mirror. Only took a =
couple
  > of hours, not bad.
  >
  > Then I go to burn the image and Nero V5 is unhappy about the image =
size.
  > Dick around for a while and then just download a freeware DVD =
burner.
  > Problem solved.
  >
  > The initial install goes pretty well, except....
  >
  > Yeah there had to be an except. This time it was the video display. =
It
  > recognized the video chipset correcty but would only allow a display =
of
  > 800x600x16. As the native resolution of the LCD is 1024x768 that =
looked
  > real yucky! Reset it to the correct resoultion/depth, tested it =
within
  > YAST, and away we went.
  >
  > The, on reboot, once the system went in to graphics mode I just got =
this
  > very pretty rainbow affect on the display. Not what I was looking =
for.
  > Booted in to a command prompt (so much for this being your grandma's =
OS)
  > and ran YAST to reset the video to exactly the same parameters I did
  > before and it worked! sigh, it's a good thing I already drink ;->
  >
  > But compared to previous Linux installs I have done this was a piece =
of
  > cake. OTOH most of the others were on DEC Alpha systems, not a =
mainstream
  > IBM laptop. In fact that is one other reasons I choose the ThinkPad,
  > mainstream and mature. The problems with the video actually =
surprised me.
  >
  > Had enough for one evening at that point. Had one more hardware =
issue in
  > front of me, weaning the system from its PCMCIA/Ethernet card and =
then to
  > a PCMCIA 802.11 wireless card.
  >
  > Tonight I tackled the wireless networking issue. Of course which =
wireless
  > card did I try first? A Linksys 802.11G. It wasn't recognized. Tried =
to
  > manually configure it, hit both the Suse and Linksys FAQs, no joy. =
But at
  > least Linksys had instructions on how to configure their older =
802.11B
  > card for Linux and I knew I had one of those somewhere.
  >
  > Yep, Suse 9.2 recognized the card and it installed. But it wouldn't
  > connect. But at this point it wasn't a Linux problem. I had =
forgotten that
  > I had configured my WAP for 802.11G only, change it to mixed mode.
  >
  > Still no happiness. Then I'm watching the boot messages (something =
I'm
  > sure your grandma dotes on<g>) and I catch an error message about =
wpa.....
  > something or another not loaded, network unsecure. Great. I have the
  > wireless network setup as WPA-PSK, which is as secure as it gets, =
and
  > Linux hasn't installed the package for it even though YAST allowed =
me to
  > set the parameters for it. Reset my WAP for no security, I'll just =
have to
  > set it to filter on MAC addresses when I get around to it. I can =
still be
  > sniffed then, but at least no one can actually use the network.
  >
  > So I am basically up and running. This message was composed and =
posted
  > using the PAN Newsreader. Tomorrow I will start from scratch. YAST =
kept
  > way too much of the old WinMe on the hard drive. I wanted to nuke it
  > completely, so I'll hook up the floppy, boot DOS and blow everything =
away!
  >
  > john
  >=20


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<DIV>Bob,</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Considering the hardware (PIII 650MHz, rudimentary video =
controller, and a=20
slow 4500RPM hard drive) it seems responsive enough. The 384MB of DRAM = helps
a=20
bunch here I'm sure. But mind you I have spent most of my time with=20
installation/re-installation chores. And I'm not really worried about=20
performance at this point, this is more a feasibility test to see if I = can=20
really replace Windows XP and not lose any needed functionality, = especially
with=20
my portable toys, iPod, iPaq, etc.</DIV>
<DIV><BR>-- <BR>john</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><A href=3D"mailto:john@oellrich.us">john@oellrich.us</A></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE=20
style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
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  <DIV>"Robert Comer" &lt;<A=20
  =
href=3D"mailto:bobcomer@mindspring.com">bobcomer@mindspring.com</A>&gt; = wrote
in=20
  message <A=20
  =
href=3D"news:41f84788@w3.nls.net">news:41f84788@w3.nls.net</A>...</DIV>Ho=
w's the=20
  speed of SUSE 9.2 on that machine?&nbsp; I've heard strange things =
<BR>about=20
  9.2 on some hardware...<BR><BR>- Bob Comer &lt;I prefer=20
  Mandrake&gt;<BR><BR><BR>"John Oellrich" &lt;<A=20
  href=3D"mailto:john@oellrich.us">john@oellrich.us</A>&gt; wrote in =
message=20
  <BR><A=20
  =
href=3D"news:pan.2005.01.27.00.40.55.538774@oellrich.us">news:pan.2005.01=
.27.00.40.55.538774@oellrich.us</A>...<BR>&gt;=20
  Bunkies,<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; I'm on vacation this week so I decided to try =
my luck=20
  at Linux again.<BR>&gt; Recently read that Novell was making Suse 9.2=20
  Professional a free download<BR>&gt; so I thought I would go that=20
  way.<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; As my ThinkPad 600X has been idle for quite some =
time I=20
  decided it would<BR>&gt; be the sacrificial goat. Did a thorough =
backup of all=20
  the data on it to<BR>&gt; DVD.<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; Try the CD/FTP route =
for=20
  installing Suse. Burn the CD but the FTP never<BR>&gt; connects. I'm =
sure=20
  there was something missed here, so I just said screw<BR>&gt; it and=20
  downloaded the full DVD ISO image from a mirror. Only took a =
couple<BR>&gt; of=20
  hours, not bad.<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; Then I go to burn the image and Nero =
V5 is=20
  unhappy about the image size.<BR>&gt; Dick around for a while and then =
just=20
  download a freeware DVD burner.<BR>&gt; Problem =
solved.<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; The=20
  initial install goes pretty well, except....<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; Yeah =
there had to=20
  be an except. This time it was the video display. It<BR>&gt; =
recognized the=20
  video chipset correcty but would only allow a display of<BR>&gt; =
800x600x16.=20
  As the native resolution of the LCD is 1024x768 that looked<BR>&gt; =
real=20
  yucky! Reset it to the correct resoultion/depth, tested it =
within<BR>&gt;=20
  YAST, and away we went.<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; The, on reboot, once the =
system went=20
  in to graphics mode I just got this<BR>&gt; very pretty rainbow affect =
on the=20
  display. Not what I was looking for.<BR>&gt; Booted in to a command =
prompt (so=20
  much for this being your grandma's OS)<BR>&gt; and ran YAST to reset =
the video=20
  to exactly the same parameters I did<BR>&gt; before and it worked! =
sigh, it's=20
  a good thing I already drink ;-&gt;<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; But compared to =
previous=20
  Linux installs I have done this was a piece of<BR>&gt; cake. OTOH most =
of the=20
  others were on DEC Alpha systems, not a mainstream<BR>&gt; IBM laptop. =
In fact=20
  that is one other reasons I choose the ThinkPad,<BR>&gt; mainstream =
and=20
  mature. The problems with the video actually surprised =
me.<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; Had=20
  enough for one evening at that point. Had one more hardware issue =
in<BR>&gt;=20
  front of me, weaning the system from its PCMCIA/Ethernet card and then =

  to<BR>&gt; a PCMCIA 802.11 wireless card.<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; Tonight I =
tackled=20
  the wireless networking issue. Of course which wireless<BR>&gt; card =
did I try=20
  first? A Linksys 802.11G. It wasn't recognized. Tried to<BR>&gt; =
manually=20
  configure it, hit both the Suse and Linksys FAQs, no joy. But =
at<BR>&gt; least=20
  Linksys had instructions on how to configure their older =
802.11B<BR>&gt; card=20
  for Linux and I knew I had one of those somewhere.<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; =
Yep, Suse=20
  9.2 recognized the card and it installed. But it wouldn't<BR>&gt; =
connect. But=20
  at this point it wasn't a Linux problem. I had forgotten that<BR>&gt; =
I had=20
  configured my WAP for 802.11G only, change it to mixed =
mode.<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;=20
  Still no happiness. Then I'm watching the boot messages (something =
I'm<BR>&gt;=20
  sure your grandma dotes on&lt;g&gt;) and I catch an error message =
about=20
  wpa.....<BR>&gt; something or another not loaded, network unsecure. =
Great. I=20
  have the<BR>&gt; wireless network setup as WPA-PSK, which is as secure =
as it=20
  gets, and<BR>&gt; Linux hasn't installed the package for it even =
though YAST=20
  allowed me to<BR>&gt; set the parameters for it. Reset my WAP for no =
security,=20
  I'll just have to<BR>&gt; set it to filter on MAC addresses when I get =
around=20
  to it. I can still be<BR>&gt; sniffed then, but at least no one can =
actually=20
  use the network.<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; So I am basically up and running. =
This=20
  message was composed and posted<BR>&gt; using the PAN Newsreader. =
Tomorrow I=20
  will start from scratch. YAST kept<BR>&gt; way too much of the old =
WinMe on=20
  the hard drive. I wanted to nuke it<BR>&gt; completely, so I'll hook =
up the=20
  floppy, boot DOS and blow everything away!<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; =
john<BR>&gt;=20
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