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Text 2371, 162 rader
Skriven 2005-02-05 10:18:40 av Rich (1:379/45)
   Kommentar till text 2363 av Geo (1:379/45)
Ärende: Re: MS and Macrovision join forces
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From: "Rich" <@>

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   I think it is the opposite of what you are claiming.  The intent is =
to allow content already protected by Macrovision and allow it to be = used
where the Macrovision protection prevents it from being used today. =
 It also enables content providers that use Macrovision for their =
content to also distribute this content over the Internet to a PC which = they
can not do today.  This is clear from the following from =
http://www.macrovision.com/company/news/press/newsdetail.jsp?id=3DTue%20F=
eb%2001%2008:22:03%20PST%202005

  Under the agreement, Microsoft's Windows Media DRM technologies will =
"recognize" the Macrovision signals, enabling temporary storage (time =
shifting) on digital devices of Macrovision-protected content received = via
analog interfaces. Additionally, an Internet-delivered movie, = downloaded to a
PC, can now be protected on analog video playback out of = a PC.=20

Rich


  "Geo" <georger@nls.net> wrote in message news:420440db@w3.nls.net...
  I can't believe Rich is arguing with me about this and he's no idea =
what his
  own company is up to. In another thread I'm explaining to him how the =
BF is
  to be used to prevent (not restrict) recording and how they are now =
trying
  to remove analog outputs from HDTV recording/playback devices and here =
this
  article spells it out and *Microsoft* is helping make it happen with a
  backup plan to make analog out useless.

  Also

  "Essentially, the deal positions MS' strategy of locking down as much
  content as it can in the hope that such an approach will find greater =
favour
  among consumer electronics kit makers and content providers than the =
more
  flexible approaches taken by, say, Apple."

  what a bunch of morons.

  Can't they see all the iPods walking past their windows? (nice phrase =
huh
  <g>)

  Geo.

  "Glenn Meadows" <gmeadow@comcast.net> wrote in message
  news:4200e760@w3.nls.net...
  > http://www.theregister.co.uk/2005/02/02/ms_macrovision_deal/
  >
  > Moving to block analog re-encoding, both of video and audio.
  >
  > --=20
  > Glenn M.
  >
  >
  >


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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp; I think it is the opposite =
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Macrovision and allow it to be used where the Macrovision protection = prevents
it=20
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Macrovision for their content to also distribute this content over the =
Internet=20
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href=3D"http://www.macrovision.com/company/news/press/newsdetail.jsp?id=3D=
Tue%20Feb%2001%2008:22:03%20PST%202005">http://www.macrovision.com/compan=
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  <DIV>Under the agreement, Microsoft=92s Windows Media DRM technologies =
will=20
  =93recognize=94 the Macrovision signals, enabling temporary storage =
(time=20
  shifting) on digital devices of Macrovision-protected content received =
via=20
  analog interfaces. Additionally, an Internet-delivered movie, =
downloaded to a=20
  PC, can now be protected on analog video playback out of a PC.=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Rich</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
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  <DIV>"Geo" &lt;<A =
href=3D"mailto:georger@nls.net">georger@nls.net</A>&gt; wrote=20
  in message <A=20
  =
href=3D"news:420440db@w3.nls.net">news:420440db@w3.nls.net</A>...</DIV>I =
can't=20
  believe Rich is arguing with me about this and he's no idea what =
his<BR>own=20
  company is up to. In another thread I'm explaining to him how the BF =
is<BR>to=20
  be used to prevent (not restrict) recording and how they are now =
trying<BR>to=20
  remove analog outputs from HDTV recording/playback devices and here=20
  this<BR>article spells it out and *Microsoft* is helping make it =
happen with=20
  a<BR>backup plan to make analog out =
useless.<BR><BR>Also<BR><BR>"Essentially,=20
  the deal positions MS' strategy of locking down as much<BR>content as =
it can=20
  in the hope that such an approach will find greater favour<BR>among =
consumer=20
  electronics kit makers and content providers than the more<BR>flexible =

  approaches taken by, say, Apple."<BR><BR>what a bunch of =
morons.<BR><BR>Can't=20
  they see all the iPods walking past their windows? (nice phrase=20
  huh<BR>&lt;g&gt;)<BR><BR>Geo.<BR><BR>"Glenn Meadows" &lt;<A=20
  href=3D"mailto:gmeadow@comcast.net">gmeadow@comcast.net</A>&gt; wrote =
in=20
  message<BR><A=20
  =
href=3D"news:4200e760@w3.nls.net">news:4200e760@w3.nls.net</A>...<BR>&gt;=
 <A=20
  =
href=3D"http://www.theregister.co.uk/2005/02/02/ms_macrovision_deal/">htt=
p://www.theregister.co.uk/2005/02/02/ms_macrovision_deal/</A><BR>&gt;<BR>=
&gt;=20
  Moving to block analog re-encoding, both of video and =
audio.<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;=20
  -- <BR>&gt; Glenn =
M.<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;<BR><BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>

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