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Ärende: Re: MS and Macrovision join forces
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From: "Rich" <@>
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DRM as you are using it is misnomer. Macrovison protection is DRM by =
the definition you are using.
I see you completely ignored the major feature mentioned first in the =
paragraph I quoted and selectively edited your quote to remove the = suggestion
that this other feature is a secondary one. You also = switched the subject
from video, the subject of both features in the = press release, to audio for
some reason. Your paranoia is getting the = best of you. You even ignore your
own point that you can record the = audio output if you wish. I can't even
guess what it is you are trying = to get people to believe but I'm pretty sure
that it bears little = relation to anything Macrovision's product does or the
benefits of = finally allowing the PC to participate with content that today it
is = precluded from supporting.
It should come as no surprise to you that your posts here are similar =
to your's on other discussions of what entitlements you should have to = the
work of others. Your paranoia has gotten so great that you see = people out to
get you and deny you something to which you feel entitled = in every corner.
You don't even question your feeling of entitlement = any more.
Rich
"Geo" <georger@nls.net> wrote in message news:4206ba46$1@w3.nls.net...
As DRM increasingly restricts what users can do with digital data, the
analog domain remains one way around the problem. In the case of =
audio, for
instance, digital data ultimate has to be converted into an audio =
sound wave
which can be recorded and re-encoded without the limitations of the =
DRM'd
original. MS is aware of this and is clearly hoping to use Macrovision
technology to help block that avenue too.
"An Internet-delivered movie, downloaded to a PC, can now be protected =
on
analog video playback out of a PC," the two companies claimed.
I don't know Rich, that seems pretty clear to me.
Geo.
"Rich" <@> wrote in message news:42050dd6@w3.nls.net...
>> I think it is the opposite of what you are claiming. The intent =
is to
allow content already protected by Macrovision and allow it to be used =
where
the Macrovision protection prevents it from being used today. It also
enables content providers that use Macrovision for their content to =
also
distribute this content over the Internet to a PC which they can not =
do
today. This is clear from the following from
=
http://www.macrovision.com/company/news/press/newsdetail.jsp?id=3DTue%20F=
eb%2001%2008:22:03%20PST%202005
Under the agreement, Microsoft's Windows Media DRM technologies will
"recognize" the Macrovision signals, enabling temporary storage (time
shifting) on digital devices of Macrovision-protected content received =
via
analog interfaces. Additionally, an Internet-delivered movie, =
downloaded to
a PC, can now be protected on analog video playback out of a PC.
Rich<<
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2> DRM as you are using it=20
is misnomer. Macrovison protection is DRM by the definition = you
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2> I see you completely =
ignored the major=20
feature mentioned first in the paragraph I quoted and selectively edited =
your=20
quote to remove the suggestion that this other feature is a secondary =
one. =20
You also switched the subject from video, the subject of both features = in
the=20
press release, to audio for some reason. Your paranoia is getting = the
best=20
of you. You even ignore your own point that you can record the = audio=20
output if you wish. I can't even guess what it is you are trying = to
get=20
people to believe but I'm pretty sure that it bears little relation to =
anything=20
Macrovision's product does or the benefits of finally allowing the PC to =
participate with content that today it is precluded from=20
supporting.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2> It should come as no =
surprise to you=20
that your posts here are similar to your's on other discussions of what=20
entitlements you should have to the work of others. Your = paranoia
has=20
gotten so great that you see people out to get you and deny you = something
to=20
which you feel entitled in every corner. You don't even question =
your=20
feeling of entitlement any more.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Rich</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV>"Geo" <<A =
href=3D"mailto:georger@nls.net">georger@nls.net</A>> wrote=20
in message <A=20
=
href=3D"news:4206ba46$1@w3.nls.net">news:4206ba46$1@w3.nls.net</A>...</DI=
V>As=20
DRM increasingly restricts what users can do with digital data, =
the<BR>analog=20
domain remains one way around the problem. In the case of audio,=20
for<BR>instance, digital data ultimate has to be converted into an =
audio sound=20
wave<BR>which can be recorded and re-encoded without the limitations =
of the=20
DRM'd<BR>original. MS is aware of this and is clearly hoping to use=20
Macrovision<BR>technology to help block that avenue too.<BR>"An=20
Internet-delivered movie, downloaded to a PC, can now be protected=20
on<BR>analog video playback out of a PC," the two companies =
claimed.<BR><BR>I=20
don't know Rich, that seems pretty clear to =
me.<BR><BR>Geo.<BR><BR>"Rich"=20
<@> wrote in message <A=20
=
href=3D"news:42050dd6@w3.nls.net">news:42050dd6@w3.nls.net</A>...<BR>>=
> =20
I think it is the opposite of what you are claiming. The intent =
is=20
to<BR>allow content already protected by Macrovision and allow it to =
be used=20
where<BR>the Macrovision protection prevents it from being used =
today. =20
It also<BR>enables content providers that use Macrovision for their =
content to=20
also<BR>distribute this content over the Internet to a PC which they =
can not=20
do<BR>today. This is clear from the following from<BR><A=20
=
href=3D"http://www.macrovision.com/company/news/press/newsdetail.jsp?id=3D=
Tue%20Feb%2001%2008:22:03%20PST%202005">http://www.macrovision.com/compan=
y/news/press/newsdetail.jsp?id=3DTue%20Feb%2001%2008:22:03%20PST%202005</=
A><BR><BR>Under=20
the agreement, Microsoft's Windows Media DRM technologies =
will<BR>"recognize"=20
the Macrovision signals, enabling temporary storage (time<BR>shifting) =
on=20
digital devices of Macrovision-protected content received =
via<BR>analog=20
interfaces. Additionally, an Internet-delivered movie, downloaded =
to<BR>a PC,=20
can now be protected on analog video playback out of a=20
PC.<BR><BR>Rich<<<BR><BR><BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>
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