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Text 2430, 210 rader
Skriven 2005-02-09 20:01:36 av Geo (1:379/45)
   Kommentar till text 2403 av Rich (1:379/45)
Ärende: Re: MS and Macrovision join forces
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From: "Geo" <georger@nls.net>

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the quote was from your link. Didn't you even read the story you posted = a
link to?

Geo.
  "Rich" <@> wrote in message news:42078e4e@w3.nls.net...
     I quoted the press release and identified it providing a link.  You =
quote someone else's opinion and do not identify it.  The paranoia I = still
attribute to you.  It's from a pattern of behavior.  That you = quoted this and
represented it as your opinion or reflective of your = opinion fits within that
pattern.

  Rich

    "Geo" <georger@nls.net> wrote in message =
news:42074f7c$1@w3.nls.net...
    that was a quote from the article, only the last sentence was mine. =
Sorry I should have made that clearer but you are now saying the author = of
the article is paranoid with feelings of entitlement?

    Geo.
      "Rich" <@> wrote in message news:4206e8d7@w3.nls.net...
         DRM as you are using it is misnomer.  Macrovison protection is =
DRM by the definition you are using.

         I see you completely ignored the major feature mentioned first =
in the paragraph I quoted and selectively edited your quote to remove = the
suggestion that this other feature is a secondary one.  You also = switched the
subject from video, the subject of both features in the = press release, to
audio for some reason.  Your paranoia is getting the = best of you.  You even
ignore your own point that you can record the = audio output if you wish.  I
can't even guess what it is you are trying = to get people to believe but I'm
pretty sure that it bears little = relation to anything Macrovision's product
does or the benefits of = finally allowing the PC to participate with content
that today it is = precluded from supporting.

         It should come as no surprise to you that your posts here are =
similar to your's on other discussions of what entitlements you should = have
to the work of others.  Your paranoia has gotten so great that you = see people
out to get you and deny you something to which you feel = entitled in every
corner.  You don't even question your feeling of = entitlement any more.

      Rich

        "Geo" <georger@nls.net> wrote in message =
news:4206ba46$1@w3.nls.net...
        As DRM increasingly restricts what users can do with digital =
data, the
        analog domain remains one way around the problem. In the case of =
audio, for
        instance, digital data ultimate has to be converted into an =
audio sound wave
        which can be recorded and re-encoded without the limitations of =
the DRM'd
        original. MS is aware of this and is clearly hoping to use =
Macrovision
        technology to help block that avenue too.
        "An Internet-delivered movie, downloaded to a PC, can now be =
protected on
        analog video playback out of a PC," the two companies claimed.

        I don't know Rich, that seems pretty clear to me.

        Geo.
        =3D
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>the quote was from your link. Didn't =
you even read=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Geo.</FONT></DIV>
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  <DIV>"Rich" &lt;@&gt; wrote in message <A=20
  =
href=3D"news:42078e4e@w3.nls.net">news:42078e4e@w3.nls.net</A>...</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp; I quoted the press =
release and=20
  identified it providing a link.&nbsp; You quote someone else's opinion =
and do=20
  not identify it.&nbsp; The paranoia I still attribute to you.&nbsp; =
It's from=20
  a pattern of behavior.&nbsp; That you quoted this and represented it =
as your=20
  opinion or reflective of your opinion fits within that =
pattern.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Rich</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
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    <DIV>"Geo" &lt;<A =
href=3D"mailto:georger@nls.net">georger@nls.net</A>&gt;=20
    wrote in message <A=20
    =
href=3D"news:42074f7c$1@w3.nls.net">news:42074f7c$1@w3.nls.net</A>...</DI=
V>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>that was a quote from the article, =
only the=20
    last sentence was mine. Sorry I should have made that clearer but =
you are=20
    now saying the author of the article is paranoid with feelings of=20
    entitlement?</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Geo.</FONT></DIV>
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      <DIV>"Rich" &lt;@&gt; wrote in message <A=20
      =
href=3D"news:4206e8d7@w3.nls.net">news:4206e8d7@w3.nls.net</A>...</DIV>
      <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp; DRM as you are using =
it=20
      is&nbsp;misnomer.&nbsp; Macrovison protection is DRM by the =
definition you=20
      are using.</FONT></DIV>
      <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
      <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp; I see you completely =
ignored the=20
      major feature mentioned first in the paragraph I quoted and =
selectively=20
      edited your quote to remove the suggestion that this other feature =
is a=20
      secondary one.&nbsp; You also switched the subject from video, the =
subject=20
      of both features in the press release, to audio for some =
reason.&nbsp;=20
      Your paranoia is getting the best of you.&nbsp; You even ignore =
your own=20
      point that you can record the audio output if you wish.&nbsp; I =
can't even=20
      guess what it is you are trying to get people to believe but I'm =
pretty=20
      sure that it bears little relation to anything Macrovision's =
product does=20
      or the benefits of finally allowing the PC to participate with =
content=20
      that today it is precluded from supporting.</FONT></DIV>
      <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
      <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp; It should come as no =
surprise to=20
      you that your posts here are similar to your's on other =
discussions of=20
      what entitlements you should have to the&nbsp;work of =
others.&nbsp; Your=20
      paranoia has gotten so great that you see people out to get you =
and deny=20
      you something to which you feel entitled in every corner.&nbsp; =
You don't=20
      even question your feeling of&nbsp;entitlement any =
more.</FONT></DIV>
      <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
      <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Rich</FONT></DIV>
      <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
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        <DIV>"Geo" &lt;<A =
href=3D"mailto:georger@nls.net">georger@nls.net</A>&gt;=20
        wrote in message <A=20
        =
href=3D"news:4206ba46$1@w3.nls.net">news:4206ba46$1@w3.nls.net</A>...</DI=
V>As=20
        DRM increasingly restricts what users can do with digital data,=20
        the<BR>analog domain remains one way around the problem. In the =
case of=20
        audio, for<BR>instance, digital data ultimate has to be =
converted into=20
        an audio sound wave<BR>which can be recorded and re-encoded =
without the=20
        limitations of the DRM'd<BR>original. MS is aware of this and is =
clearly=20
        hoping to use Macrovision<BR>technology to help block that =
avenue=20
        too.<BR>"An Internet-delivered movie, downloaded to a PC, can =
now be=20
        protected on<BR>analog video playback out of a PC," the two =
companies=20
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