Text 2459, 290 rader
Skriven 2005-02-10 19:47:10 av Rich Gauszka (1:379/45)
Kommentar till text 2458 av Tony Ingenoso (1:379/45)
Ärende: Re: MS and Macrovision join forces
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From: "Rich Gauszka" <gauszka@hotmail.com>
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Sounds like they are embedding it to me. I suppose one way consumers =
have to punish them is just start a campaign against Longhorn as an =
anti-consumer product.=20
http://news.com.com/Microsoft,+Macrovision+align+on+copy+protection/2100-=
1030_3-5557984.html
Microsoft and copy-protection company Macrovision have struck a deal = that
will add a new layer of anticopying defenses to video content being = swapped
between home devices.=20
The Macrovision technology has been one attempt to limit this. Rather = than
scrambling the signal altogether, as digital copy protection = typically does,
it includes a pulse of electronic energy along with the = video as it is
played. The pulse is meant to indicate the content should = not be recorded.
Many devices such as DVD recorders respect this signal = and block recording if
it is detected.=20
Under the new deal, Microsoft's Windows Media software will recognize = this
signal when it is included in incoming analog video streams. For = upcoming
versions of its Microsoft's Media Center Edition operating = systems, the
computer will allow users to make a temporary copy that can = be stored one
day, but that cannot be used after that time.=20
In future versions of its Media software, including the version in its = next
Longhorn operating system, Microsoft plans to support an upcoming = revision of
Macrovision's technology that will allow content to be = stored for just 90
minutes, or up to a week.=20
"Tony Ingenoso" <aingenoso@hotmail.com> wrote in message =
news:420bfcf5@w3.nls.net...
Q: Is Microsoft planning on embedding Macrovision technology in =
Windows?
Yes, or no.
"Rich" <@> wrote in message news:420b9923$1@w3.nls.net...
How does it differ? Well it's a completely different quote on a =
different topic. That's how it differs.
George was wrong and you jumped on putting your foot in your =
mouth without checking whether or not George was correct first.
Rich
"Tony Ingenoso" <aingenoso@hotmail.com> wrote in message =
news:420b0a58@w3.nls.net...
"For the entertainment industry to deliver premium on-demand =
entertainment in the home, rights must be protected to prevent revenue = loss.
With about 10 million digital video recorders expected to ship in = 2005, a
surge in demand for PCs running Microsoft Windows XP Media = Center 2005 and
broad consumer adoption and use of digital media = technologies, Microsoft and
Macrovision are working to provide a = flexible rights solution that allows the
entertainment industry to take = full advantage of new usage models for today's
digital home. "
How does that differ from what was said? MacroVision is an analog =
technology and you plan to somehow marry it with Windows to "protect" =
"rights". Those "rights" would apparently NOT include the buyers right = to
somehow insure they get to injoy whatever they've bought in the = future. =20
I assure you - being consumer hostile is not the way to success in =
business.
The whole "loss of revenue" argument from these people has been =
proven bogus time and time again. They whine with every new technology = that
comes along and their sales continue. =20
"Rich" <@> wrote in message news:420ac9fd$1@w3.nls.net...
You really ought to double check on george's embarrassing =
mistakes before embarrassing yourself too.
Rich
"Tony Ingenoso" <aingenoso@hotmail.com> wrote in message =
news:420abbf1@w3.nls.net...
As the kids say: "pwned"
"Geo" <georger@nls.net> wrote in message =
news:420ab27f@w3.nls.net...
the quote was from your link. Didn't you even read the story =
you posted a link to?
Geo.
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Sounds like they are embedding it to me. =
I suppose=20
one way consumers have to punish them is just start a campaign =
against=20
Longhorn as an anti-consumer product. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2><A=20
href=3D"http://news.com.com/Microsoft,+Macrovision+align+on+copy+protecti=
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lign+on+copy+protection/2100-1030_3-5557984.html</A></FONT></DIV>
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<P><B>Microsoft and copy-protection company Macrovision have struck a =
deal that=20
will add a new layer of anticopying defenses to video content being =
swapped=20
between home devices.</B> </P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P>The Macrovision technology has been one attempt to limit this. Rather =
than=20
scrambling the signal altogether, as digital copy protection typically = does,
it=20
includes a pulse of electronic energy along with the video as it is = played.
The=20
pulse is meant to indicate the content should not be recorded. Many = devices
such=20
as DVD recorders respect this signal and block recording if it is = detected.
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<P>Under the new deal, Microsoft's Windows Media software will recognize =
this=20
signal when it is included in incoming analog video streams. For = upcoming=20
versions of its Microsoft's <A=20
title=3D"Media Center not yet a home run -- Thursday, Jan 6, 2005"=20
href=3D"http://news.com.com/Media+Center+not+yet+a+home+run/2100-1046_3-5=
515378.html?tag=3Dnl"><FONT=20
color=3D#b23e3e>Media Center Edition</FONT></A> operating systems, the =
computer=20
will allow users to make a temporary copy that can be stored one day, = but
that=20
cannot be used after that time. </P>
<P>In future versions of its Media software, including the version in =
its next=20
Longhorn operating system, Microsoft plans to support an upcoming = revision
of=20
Macrovision's technology that will allow content to be stored for just = 90=20
minutes, or up to a week. </P></DIV>
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<DIV>"Tony Ingenoso" <<A=20
href=3D"mailto:aingenoso@hotmail.com">aingenoso@hotmail.com</A>> =
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Q: Is Microsoft planning on embedding =
Macrovision=20
technology in Windows?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Yes, or no.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
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<DIV>"Rich" <@> wrote in message <A=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2> How does it =
differ? Well=20
it's a completely different quote on a different topic. That's =
how it=20
differs.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2> George was wrong and =
you jumped on=20
putting your foot in your mouth without checking whether or not =
George was=20
correct first.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Rich</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
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<DIV>"Tony Ingenoso" <<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:aingenoso@hotmail.com">aingenoso@hotmail.com</A>> = wrote
in=20
message <A=20
=
href=3D"news:420b0a58@w3.nls.net">news:420b0a58@w3.nls.net</A>...</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>"<FONT face=3D"Times New Roman" =
size=3D3>For the=20
entertainment industry to deliver premium on-demand entertainment =
in the=20
home, rights must be protected to prevent revenue loss. With about =
10=20
million digital video recorders expected to ship in 2005, a surge =
in=20
demand for PCs running Microsoft Windows XP Media Center 2005 and =
broad=20
consumer adoption and use of digital media technologies, Microsoft =
and=20
Macrovision are working to provide a flexible rights solution that =
allows=20
the entertainment industry to take full advantage of new usage =
models for=20
today=92s digital home. "</FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>How does that differ from what =
was=20
said? MacroVision is an analog technology and you plan to =
somehow=20
marry it with Windows to "protect" "rights". Those "rights" =
would=20
apparently NOT include the buyers right to somehow insure they get =
to=20
injoy whatever they've bought in the future. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I assure you - being consumer =
hostile is not=20
the way to success in business.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>The whole "loss of revenue" =
argument from=20
these people has been proven bogus time and time again. They =
whine=20
with every new technology that comes along and their sales =
continue. =20
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV>"Rich" <@> wrote in message <A=20
=
href=3D"news:420ac9fd$1@w3.nls.net">news:420ac9fd$1@w3.nls.net</A>...</DI=
V>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2> You really ought =
to double=20
check on george's embarrassing mistakes before embarrassing =
yourself=20
too.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Rich</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
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<DIV>"Tony Ingenoso" <<A=20
=
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wrote in message <A=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>As the kids say: =
"pwned"</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV>"Geo" <<A=20
href=3D"mailto:georger@nls.net">georger@nls.net</A>> =
wrote in=20
message <A=20
=
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>the quote was from your =
link. Didn't=20
you even read the story you posted a link to?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Geo.</FONT></DIV>
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