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Skriven 2005-03-07 17:26:10 av Mike '/m' (1:379/45)
   Kommentar till text 2907 av Ellen K. (1:379/45)
Ärende: Re: Microsoft doesn't know how to ship software
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From: Mike '/m' <mike@barkto.com>


There's more to it than just a file.  There is actually a conversation that
occurs between the Java Web Start client and the Java Web Start server.   If
the client is blocked from the server, then the install does not run.

 /m

On Sun, 06 Mar 2005 12:06:46 -0800, Ellen K.
<72322.enno.esspeayem.1016@compuserve.com> wrote:

>Can the file be copied and pasted from one machine to another?
>Emailed?
>
>On Sun, 06 Mar 2005 08:11:03 -0500, Mike '/m' <mike@barkto.com> wrote in
>message <c20m21dos2bba7qd3rr6t1ogj63cb5e2qa@4ax.com>:
>
>>
>>That depends upon the Windows policy on the computer, as set by the admin of
>>the computer.
>>
>>At work we use Java Web Start to manage the installs of the Java programs on
>>the clients.  The IT department has allowed the users enough privilege to
>>install the Java programs.  Since Java Web Start is web-server based, we use
>>the very flexible authentication and authorization capabilities of the web
>>server to determine who is allowed to download what program.  For example, we
>>can say that one program can only be downloaded to a certain IP address, or
>>that the user can download it on any PC provided the user authenticates
>>himself or herself properly, etc.
>>
>> /m
>>
>>On Sat, 05 Mar 2005 20:09:01 -0800, Ellen K.
>><72322.enno.esspeayem.1016@compuserve.com> wrote:
>>
>>>So the user can just copy a jar to their computer and run it.  No
>>>security provided by, for example, having to be an admin to install an
>>>executable.
>>>
>>>On Sat, 05 Mar 2005 18:08:24 +0000, Adam Flinton
>>><adam@NOSPAM_softfab.com> wrote in message <4229f558$1@w3.nls.net>:
>>>
>>>>Ellen K. wrote:
>>>>> And who installs the jar?
>>>>
>>>>Who installs a word doc? It's simply a file.
>>>>
>>>>When you create a word doc & send it to someone, are they "installing" it?
>>>>
>>>>Adam
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, 04 Mar 2005 23:49:08 +0000, Adam Flinton
>>>>> <adam@NOSPAM_softfab.com> wrote in message <4228f3a9$1@w3.nls.net>:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>Gregg N wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Mike '/m' wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>If you read the blog, the blogger explains the problems with this
>>>>>>>>approach, i.e., now my application  and I are responsible for
>>>>>>>>updating the Windows OS on my customers' PCs.  Probably requiring
>>>>>>>>admin-level access to the box.   That has just added a huge layer to
>>>>>>>>my install process.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Applications generally require administrative access to install them
anyway,
>>>>>>>as they should.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Gregg
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Hah.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>It's one of the beauties of java...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Once the JVM in on board...then you just need a jar & a command/bat
>>>>>>file.............. <G>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Adam
>>>>>
>>>>>

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