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Text 418, 170 rader
Skriven 2004-09-05 00:25:32 av Rich (1:379/45)
    Kommentar till text 412 av Geo. (1:379/45)
Ärende: Re: Spammers faster than the good guys....
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From: "Rich" <@>

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   It does what it is supposed to.  You keep claiming it is supposed to =
do something else of your imagination and then whine that it doesn't do = what
you imagined.

Rich

  "Geo." <georger@nls.net> wrote in message =
news:413a11ca$1@w3.nls.net...
  I never said there is no value in SPF, for someone like AOL, Yahoo, =
MSN, etc. I
  would imagine it has great value as for a target like them even a =
small drop in
  backscatter can mean a significant load decrease.

  But if you look at it as a technology, it's sort of like a gate =
without a
  fence. Great so it blocks the sidewalk but I can just go around it.

  Geo.


  "Rich" <@> wrote in message news:4139f6f3$1@w3.nls.net...
     The normally not so bright folks at the register are not someone I =
would
  suggest you use for support.  That they make up their own claims and =
attack
  them doesn't make their claims anything other than their own.  Maybe =
you like
  the article because you often do the same.  mike already gave you one =
valuable
  and positive result.  Why do you feel compelled to whine that there is =
no value
  in this?

  Rich

    "Geo." <georger@nls.net> wrote in message =
news:4139b3a7@w3.nls.net...
    "Mike '/m'" <mike@barkto.com> wrote in message
    news:1mnhj01s3a2al9heaohoeqa3hmiu6c22rh@4ax.com...

    > Thought you might like this one:
    > http://www.theregister.co.uk/2004/09/03/email_authentication_spam/

    Yes I saw that yesterday. This is what I have tried to explain to =
Rich, that
    because spammers have unlimited supply of domains they can easily =
get around
    spf so it will have no effect or perhaps a positive effect on the =
spammers.
  All
    SPF is designed to do is stop people from sending as your domain and =
even
  that
    is lame because it doesn't depend on your using SPF but instead =
depends on
    everyone else in the world using SPF.

    It could have been so much more if it only had been spec'd to work =
for the
  PRT
    domain instead of the name domain.


    Geo.



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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp; It does what it is =
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You keep claiming it is supposed to do something else of your = imagination
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Rich</FONT></DIV>
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  <DIV>"Geo." &lt;<A =
href=3D"mailto:georger@nls.net">georger@nls.net</A>&gt; wrote=20
  in message <A=20
  =
href=3D"news:413a11ca$1@w3.nls.net">news:413a11ca$1@w3.nls.net</A>...</DI=
V>I=20
  never said there is no value in SPF, for someone like AOL, Yahoo, MSN, =
etc.=20
  I<BR>would imagine it has great value as for a target like them even a =
small=20
  drop in<BR>backscatter can mean a significant load =
decrease.<BR><BR>But if you=20
  look at it as a technology, it's sort of like a gate without =
a<BR>fence. Great=20
  so it blocks the sidewalk but I can just go around=20
  it.<BR><BR>Geo.<BR><BR><BR>"Rich" &lt;@&gt; wrote in message <A=20
  =
href=3D"news:4139f6f3$1@w3.nls.net">news:4139f6f3$1@w3.nls.net</A>...<BR>=
&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
  The normally not so bright folks at the register are not someone I=20
  would<BR>suggest you use for support.&nbsp; That they make up their =
own claims=20
  and attack<BR>them doesn't make their claims anything other than their =

  own.&nbsp; Maybe you like<BR>the article because you often do the =
same.&nbsp;=20
  mike already gave you one valuable<BR>and positive result.&nbsp; Why =
do you=20
  feel compelled to whine that there is no value<BR>in=20
  this?<BR><BR>Rich<BR><BR>&nbsp; "Geo." &lt;<A=20
  href=3D"mailto:georger@nls.net">georger@nls.net</A>&gt; wrote in =
message <A=20
  =
href=3D"news:4139b3a7@w3.nls.net">news:4139b3a7@w3.nls.net</A>...<BR>&nbs=
p;=20
  "Mike '/m'" &lt;<A =
href=3D"mailto:mike@barkto.com">mike@barkto.com</A>&gt; wrote=20
  in message<BR>&nbsp; <A=20
  =
href=3D"news:1mnhj01s3a2al9heaohoeqa3hmiu6c22rh@4ax.com">news:1mnhj01s3a2=
al9heaohoeqa3hmiu6c22rh@4ax.com</A>...<BR><BR>&nbsp;=20
  &gt; Thought you might like this one:<BR>&nbsp; &gt; <A=20
  =
href=3D"http://www.theregister.co.uk/2004/09/03/email_authentication_spam=
/">http://www.theregister.co.uk/2004/09/03/email_authentication_spam/</A>=
<BR><BR>&nbsp;=20
  Yes I saw that yesterday. This is what I have tried to explain to =
Rich,=20
  that<BR>&nbsp; because spammers have unlimited supply of domains they =
can=20
  easily get around<BR>&nbsp; spf so it will have no effect or perhaps a =

  positive effect on the spammers.<BR>All<BR>&nbsp; SPF is designed to =
do is=20
  stop people from sending as your domain and even<BR>that<BR>&nbsp; is =
lame=20
  because it doesn't depend on your using SPF but instead depends =
on<BR>&nbsp;=20
  everyone else in the world using SPF.<BR><BR>&nbsp; It could have been =
so much=20
  more if it only had been spec'd to work for the<BR>PRT<BR>&nbsp; =
domain=20
  instead of the name domain.<BR><BR><BR>&nbsp;=20
Geo.<BR><BR><BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>

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