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Skriven 2005-05-20 18:56:30 av Rich (1:379/45)
Kommentar till text 4241 av Mike '/m' (1:379/45)
Ärende: Re: Music players and phones
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From: "Rich" <@>
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Keep spinning if that is what you need to live with yourself.
Do you really think the itunes store would sell the same if apple did =
not lock in ipod users so that this was the only store they can use?
If users are not locked in, why would they pick the itunes store?
Rich
"Mike '/m'" <mike@barkto.com> wrote in message =
news:s93t81dqsvf1bvef5vjpukf6n5ukvof7dp@4ax.com...
It must really suck for your employer to be the loser in the online
music race, eh Rich?
Despite what you are trying to spin me as saying, I am actually saying
that Apple is betting on iTunes (an/or its video successor), not iPod.
I say no more or no less. Despite what you try to spin.
Give those rotator cuffs a rest for a change, will ya?
/m
On Fri, 20 May 2005 17:15:01 -0700, "Rich" <@> wrote:
> If you weren't blinded by your agenda, mike, you could see the =
obvious and how silly you sound.
>
> Why will phones win out, for the same reason phones are winning =
over many PDA users? Why carry two devices when you can carry one?
>
> Apple will follow Microsoft and I believe real in getting their =
software onto phones. There is a difference from the ipod. Unless = apple
restricts their OEM licensees from offering their users multiple = choices, the
phone manufacturers and carriers have no reason to lock in = their customers to
the itunes store like apple does.
>
>Rich
>
> "Mike '/m'" <mike@barkto.com> wrote in message =
news:55ns81lbitvndvtrbj4407ueh8f7cbm5bo@4ax.com...
>
> It's not iPod that Apple is betting on, but iTunes (and its video
> follow-up). Apple is already putting iPod software on cell phones =
to
> allow them to access iTunes.
>
> Gates' comment was more of a specious smokescreen than anything =
else.
> Apple caught him napping in this space, and now he has to look like =
he
> was out in front all along.
>
> /m
>
>
> On Fri, 20 May 2005 14:01:23 +0100, Adam =
<mmmmm_beer_mmmm_donuts@moes>
> wrote:
>
> >Randy wrote:
> >
> >> I just 1 GB on my phone via miniSD-and I want MORE....
> >>=20
> >> 500+ of AAC-encoded songs-sweet!
> >>=20
> >
> >Ditto. I agree with Gates that the Ipod won't last & that the =
phones=20
> >will eat it's lunch. I have a nokia 6230 which I got coz it has an =
MP3=20
> >player & an fm radio....
> >
> >A mondo bizarro bit is that if you are listening to the radio or =
the mp3=20
> >player & someone calls you get the selected ringing tones....so if =
like=20
> >me you often set your phone to silent for meetings etc & then =
"forget"=20
> >to re-enable the ringer....then you are left wondering what's =
going on=20
> >coz the music/radio just suddenly goes....silent....
> >
> ><G>
> >
> >I had a look at the smart phones (Pocket pc, symbian etc) & was =
very=20
> >impressed but @ the end of the day...I just wanted music + radio & =
a=20
> >nice neat (small) phone.
> >
> >I like the way most of them now try wifi first for any net related =
things.
> >
> >I reckon we're 2-3 years out from most people's "personal" =
computer=20
> >being the smartphone in their pocket.
> >
> >Adam
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2> Do you really think the =
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<DIV>"Mike '/m'" <<A =
href=3D"mailto:mike@barkto.com">mike@barkto.com</A>>=20
wrote in message <A=20
=
href=3D"news:s93t81dqsvf1bvef5vjpukf6n5ukvof7dp@4ax.com">news:s93t81dqsvf=
1bvef5vjpukf6n5ukvof7dp@4ax.com</A>...</DIV><BR>It=20
must really suck for your employer to be the loser in the =
online<BR>music=20
race, eh Rich?<BR><BR>Despite what you are trying to spin me as =
saying, I am=20
actually saying<BR>that Apple is betting on iTunes (an/or its video=20
successor), not iPod.<BR>I say no more or no less. Despite what =
you try=20
to spin.<BR><BR>Give those rotator cuffs a rest for a change, will=20
ya?<BR><BR> /m<BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR>On Fri, 20 May 2005 =
17:15:01 -0700,=20
"Rich" <@> wrote:<BR><BR>> If you weren't blinded =
by your=20
agenda, mike, you could see the obvious and how silly you=20
sound.<BR>><BR>> Why will phones win out, for the =
same=20
reason phones are winning over many PDA users? Why carry two =
devices=20
when you can carry one?<BR>><BR>> Apple will follow=20
Microsoft and I believe real in getting their software onto =
phones. =20
There is a difference from the ipod. Unless apple restricts =
their OEM=20
licensees from offering their users multiple choices, the phone =
manufacturers=20
and carriers have no reason to lock in their customers to the itunes =
store=20
like apple does.<BR>><BR>>Rich<BR>><BR>> "Mike '/m'" =
<<A=20
href=3D"mailto:mike@barkto.com">mike@barkto.com</A>> wrote in =
message <A=20
=
href=3D"news:55ns81lbitvndvtrbj4407ueh8f7cbm5bo@4ax.com">news:55ns81lbitv=
ndvtrbj4407ueh8f7cbm5bo@4ax.com</A>...<BR>><BR>> =20
It's not iPod that Apple is betting on, but iTunes (and its=20
video<BR>> follow-up). Apple is already putting iPod =
software=20
on cell phones to<BR>> allow them to access=20
iTunes.<BR>><BR>> Gates' comment was more of a specious=20
smokescreen than anything else.<BR>> Apple caught him napping =
in this=20
space, and now he has to look like he<BR>> was out in front =
all=20
along.<BR>><BR>> /m<BR>><BR>><BR>> On =
Fri, 20=20
May 2005 14:01:23 +0100, Adam <<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:mmmmm_beer_mmmm_donuts@moes">mmmmm_beer_mmmm_donuts@moes</=
A>><BR>> =20
wrote:<BR>><BR>> >Randy wrote:<BR>> =
><BR>> =20
>> I just 1 GB on my phone via miniSD-and I want =
MORE....<BR>> =20
>> <BR>> >> 500+ of AAC-encoded=20
songs-sweet!<BR>> >> <BR>> ><BR>> =20
>Ditto. I agree with Gates that the Ipod won't last & that the =
phones=20
<BR>> >will eat it's lunch. I have a nokia 6230 which I =
got coz it=20
has an MP3 <BR>> >player & an fm =
radio....<BR>> =20
><BR>> >A mondo bizarro bit is that if you are =
listening to the=20
radio or the mp3 <BR>> >player & someone calls you get =
the=20
selected ringing tones....so if like <BR>> >me you often =
set your=20
phone to silent for meetings etc & then "forget" <BR>> =
>to=20
re-enable the ringer....then you are left wondering what's going on=20
<BR>> >coz the music/radio just suddenly=20
goes....silent....<BR>> ><BR>> =20
><G><BR>> ><BR>> >I had a look at the =
smart=20
phones (Pocket pc, symbian etc) & was very <BR>> =
>impressed=20
but @ the end of the day...I just wanted music + radio & a =
<BR>> =20
>nice neat (small) phone.<BR>> ><BR>> >I =
like the=20
way most of them now try wifi first for any net related =
things.<BR>> =20
><BR>> >I reckon we're 2-3 years out from most people's =
"personal" computer <BR>> >being the smartphone in their=20
pocket.<BR>> ><BR>> =
>Adam<BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>
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