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Text 4830, 176 rader
Skriven 2005-06-11 09:33:52 av Rich (1:379/45)
   Kommentar till text 4829 av Mike '/m' (1:379/45)
Ärende: Re: Speaking of entitlement  :-)
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From: "Rich" <@>

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   And people came and left back them too.  I realize you are trying =
hard to spin this to meet your agenda.

Rich
=20
  "Mike '/m'" <mike@barkto.com> wrote in message =
news:sb3ma1th9d5tlvmjcan7obbbnmk4k5pvd1@4ax.com...
  So, do you think Microsoft will return to the growth rate of, say, =
1990
  to 2000?=20

   =
http://finance.yahoo.com/q/bc?s=3DMSFT&t=3Dmy&l=3Doff&z=3Dl&q=3Dl&c=3D

  That's when it was a vibrant, growing company.  That's when the use of
  the stock market to compensate employees actually worked, and enabled
  Microsoft to attract and retain "the best and the brightest".

    /m

  On Sat, 11 Jun 2005 08:49:43 -0700, "Rich" <@> wrote:

  >   You believe whatever helps you feel better about yourself.
  >
  >Rich
  >
  >  "Mike '/m'" <mike@barkto.com> wrote in message =
news:i4lla1lvjl9mcj1pa37j21nqevgnidfr2n@4ax.com...
  >
  >  Soounds more like rationalization than explanation.
  >
  >  I agree though that they were looking for change.  The Microsoft =
people
  >  who went to Google were looking for a change, from a stagnant =
company
  >  whose best years have passed by; to a vibrant, growing company =
that's
  >  just beginning.
  >
  >    /m
  >
  >
  >  On Fri, 10 Jun 2005 23:18:21 -0700, "Rich" <@> wrote:
  >
  >  >   Interest in google is easy to explain.  For people looking for =
a change but do not want to uproot themselves and move there are few = high
tech businesses in the area particularly those that treat there = employees as
well as Microsoft does.  In the past people have might have = gone to amazon or
real or other local outfits.  During the boom many = went to startups but you
see less of that now that the idea of startups = isn't as popular.
  >  >
  >  >Rich
  >  >
  >  >  "Mike '/m'" <mike@barkto.com> wrote in message =
news:v1dka151rpc6lk6pbmo5p2ra8vcjo8mos4@4ax.com...
  >  >
  >  >
  >  >  Probably due to the stress caued by Microsoft's problems hiring =
of late,
  >  >  and Google becoming the destination for Microsoft talent.  Well =
I guess
  >  >  that happens when you've trained your workforce to expect to be =
paid by
  >  >  the stock market.
  >  >
  >  >    /m

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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp; And people came and left =
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Rich</FONT></DIV>
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  <DIV>"Mike '/m'" &lt;<A =
href=3D"mailto:mike@barkto.com">mike@barkto.com</A>&gt;=20
  wrote in message <A=20
  =
href=3D"news:sb3ma1th9d5tlvmjcan7obbbnmk4k5pvd1@4ax.com">news:sb3ma1th9d5=
tlvmjcan7obbbnmk4k5pvd1@4ax.com</A>...</DIV>So,=20
  do you think Microsoft will return to the growth rate of, say, =
1990<BR>to=20
  2000? <BR><BR>&nbsp;<A=20
  =
href=3D"http://finance.yahoo.com/q/bc?s=3DMSFT&amp;t=3Dmy&amp;l=3Doff&amp=
;z=3Dl&amp;q=3Dl&amp;c">http://finance.yahoo.com/q/bc?s=3DMSFT&amp;t=3Dmy=
&amp;l=3Doff&amp;z=3Dl&amp;q=3Dl&amp;c</A>=3D<BR><BR>That's=20
  when it was a vibrant, growing company.&nbsp; That's when the use =
of<BR>the=20
  stock market to compensate employees actually worked, and =
enabled<BR>Microsoft=20
  to attract and retain "the best and the brightest".<BR><BR>&nbsp;=20
  /m<BR><BR><BR><BR>On Sat, 11 Jun 2005 08:49:43 -0700, "Rich" &lt;@&gt; =

  wrote:<BR><BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp; You believe whatever helps you feel =
better=20
  about yourself.<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;Rich<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;&nbsp; "Mike '/m'" =
&lt;<A=20
  href=3D"mailto:mike@barkto.com">mike@barkto.com</A>&gt; wrote in =
message <A=20
  =
href=3D"news:i4lla1lvjl9mcj1pa37j21nqevgnidfr2n@4ax.com">news:i4lla1lvjl9=
mcj1pa37j21nqevgnidfr2n@4ax.com</A>...<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;&nbsp;=20
  Soounds more like rationalization than =
explanation.<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;&nbsp; I=20
  agree though that they were looking for change.&nbsp; The Microsoft=20
  people<BR>&gt;&nbsp; who went to Google were looking for a change, =
from a=20
  stagnant company<BR>&gt;&nbsp; whose best years have passed by; to a =
vibrant,=20
  growing company that's<BR>&gt;&nbsp; just=20
  beginning.<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
/m<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;&nbsp;=20
  On Fri, 10 Jun 2005 23:18:21 -0700, "Rich" &lt;@&gt;=20
  wrote:<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;&nbsp; &gt;&nbsp;&nbsp; Interest in google is =
easy to=20
  explain.&nbsp; For people looking for a change but do not want to =
uproot=20
  themselves and move there are few high tech businesses in the area=20
  particularly those that treat there employees as well as Microsoft =
does.&nbsp;=20
  In the past people have might have gone to amazon or real or other =
local=20
  outfits.&nbsp; During the boom many went to startups but you see less =
of that=20
  now that the idea of startups isn't as popular.<BR>&gt;&nbsp;=20
  &gt;<BR>&gt;&nbsp; &gt;Rich<BR>&gt;&nbsp; &gt;<BR>&gt;&nbsp; =
&gt;&nbsp; "Mike=20
  '/m'" &lt;<A href=3D"mailto:mike@barkto.com">mike@barkto.com</A>&gt; =
wrote in=20
  message <A=20
  =
href=3D"news:v1dka151rpc6lk6pbmo5p2ra8vcjo8mos4@4ax.com">news:v1dka151rpc=
6lk6pbmo5p2ra8vcjo8mos4@4ax.com</A>...<BR>&gt;&nbsp;=20
  &gt;<BR>&gt;&nbsp; &gt;<BR>&gt;&nbsp; &gt;&nbsp; Probably due to the =
stress=20
  caued by Microsoft's problems hiring of late,<BR>&gt;&nbsp; &gt;&nbsp; =
and=20
  Google becoming the destination for Microsoft talent.&nbsp; Well I=20
  guess<BR>&gt;&nbsp; &gt;&nbsp; that happens when you've trained your =
workforce=20
  to expect to be paid by<BR>&gt;&nbsp; &gt;&nbsp; the stock=20
  market.<BR>&gt;&nbsp; &gt;<BR>&gt;&nbsp; &gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
/m<BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>

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