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Text 4924, 157 rader
Skriven 2005-06-13 06:31:30 av Geo (1:379/45)
   Kommentar till text 4918 av Rich (1:379/45)
Ärende: Re: FCC determined to shut down analog TV
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From: "Geo" <georger@nls.net>

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The advantages of CD vs floppy were huge for the end users, imagine what = it
was like to install NT 3.1 from the 25 floppy disks.. The advantages = of DVD
vs CD are far less from the end user point of view for software = installation.
I was referring more to DVD's vs VHS and video = distribution.

I agree on the 16.9 vs 4.3 howerver for some shows like Enterprise I've = found
a huge difference between SD and HD versions as there is a lot of = special
effects that look sooooo much better in HD. For a show like = House, ok what's
the difference, you want to count the hairs in his = unshaven beard but other
than that.. but with anything that uses special = effects or where detail in
the images is important (like football or = nasaTV?) it makes a huge
difference.

Geo.
  "Rich" <@> wrote in message news:42acdbd6@w3.nls.net...
     If you mean data CDs as a means of distributing software then yes =
it may have seemed quick but that is perspective.  For others it was a = slow
wait until CDs were common enough to rely upon.  It is similar = today with
DVDs.  Everyone you know may have a DVD-ROM drive but they = are not common
enough to rely on for some software.  You can still buy = new PCs with a CD-R
only and even if the upgrade price is only $5 it is = enough to keep it from
being automatic.  I was speaking to someone on = Friday who told me that he is
unable to ship his product on DVD only and = it targets what might be perceived
as a high end segment.

     I don't think the value in HDTV vs. SD or even ATSC vs. NTSC for =
the consumer is the same as that of software distribution on CD.  From = the
distribution side CDs were a blessing.  They were much cheaper to = produce
than the floppy disks they replaced and provided an order of = magnitude
greater capacity allowing more value to be included at no = additional per-unit
cost.

     In regard to HDTV, for me I have become accustomed to HD and =
dislike watching something in SD.  This isn't quite accurate as I = believe
that I distinguish more between full frame 16:9 vs. 4:3 than I = do between HD
and SD.  I notice both but have less dislike for a = widescreen SD DVD than I
do for a 4:3 SD TV show.

     I'm all for a mandate that all new TVs must support ATSC and =
phasing out of NTSC.  I would have liked the ATSC mandate to occured a = while
ago.  I have a year old HDTV that does not include an ATSC = decoder.  I was OK
with it because it is used with satelite TV which has = a separate decoder
anyway.  The replacement which came out a few months = later does have ATSC.

  Rich
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>The advantages of CD vs floppy were =
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I agree on the 16.9 vs 4.3 howerver for =
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unshaven=20
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where=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Geo.</FONT></DIV>
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  <DIV>"Rich" &lt;@&gt; wrote in message <A=20
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  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp; If you mean data CDs as =
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enough=20
  to rely upon.&nbsp; It is similar today with DVDs.&nbsp; Everyone you =
know may=20
  have a DVD-ROM drive but they are not common enough to rely on for =
some=20
  software.&nbsp; You can still buy new PCs with a CD-R only and even if =
the=20
  upgrade price is only $5 it is enough to keep it from being =
automatic.&nbsp; I=20
  was speaking to someone on Friday who told me that he is unable to =
ship his=20
  product on DVD only and it targets what might be perceived as a high =
end=20
  segment.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp; I don't think the value =
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software=20
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disks they=20
  replaced and provided an order of magnitude greater capacity allowing =
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  value to be included at no additional per-unit cost.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp; In regard to HDTV, for =
me I have=20
  become accustomed to HD and dislike watching something in SD.&nbsp; =
This isn't=20
  quite accurate as I believe that I&nbsp;distinguish more =
between&nbsp;full=20
  frame 16:9 vs. 4:3 than I do between HD and SD.&nbsp; I notice both =
but have=20
  less dislike for a widescreen SD DVD than I do for a 4:3 SD TV=20
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  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp; I'm all for a mandate =
that all new=20
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liked the=20
  ATSC mandate to occured a while ago.&nbsp; I have a year old HDTV that =
does=20
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with=20
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  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial =
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