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Text 534, 128 rader
Skriven 2004-09-11 19:16:52 av Rich (1:379/45)
    Kommentar till text 530 av Geo. (1:379/45)
Ärende: Re: Spammers faster than the good guys....
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From: "Rich" <@>

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   Unless you are dense you sure did mention protecting AOL users and =
you did so again.  If AOL knows enough that mike's domain did not send = the
email that claims such in order not to send him an NDR, it also = knows enough
to not pass it on to the AOL user recipient.  From AOL's = perpective, the
latter is all it cares about.  That mike doesn't get an = NDR is just a happy
side effect.

   I said nothing about mike's protection.  Mike has done nothing to =
protect himself, at least nothing he mentioned here.

Rich

  "Geo." <georger@nls.net> wrote in message =
news:41437e02$1@w3.nls.net...
  I said nothing of the sort, I never mentioned protecting AOL users. =
What I said
  was that SPF protects mike when someone spams AOL users but if they =
then spam
  AT&T mike is not protected even though it's mike who implemented SPF.

  So perhaps you can explain the sanity in your statement where you say =
mike's
  protection depends on AT&T implementing SPF?

  Hey, if that's how you think then here's a thought, while you are =
depending on
  AT&T for your security, why don't you depend on the ISP's to kill the =
spammers
  accounts? Then you don't need any of this crap.

  Geo.

  "Rich" <@> wrote in message news:41431790@w3.nls.net...
     What you wrote is that the mechanism works wonderfully to protect =
against
  anyone that wants to spam the millions upon millions of AOL customers. =
 Sounds
  like a very valuable mechanism.  To bad AT&T doesn't support it =
currently.   In
  your terms, the gate around AOL is good and solid while AT&T hasn't =
built one
  yet.

  Rich



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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp; Unless you are dense you =
sure did=20
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enough=20
that mike's domain did not send the email that claims such in order not = to
send=20
him an NDR, it also knows enough to not pass it on to the AOL user=20
recipient.&nbsp; From AOL's perpective, the latter is all it cares =
about.&nbsp;=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp; I said nothing about =
mike's=20
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he=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Rich</FONT></DIV>
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  <DIV>"Geo." &lt;<A =
href=3D"mailto:georger@nls.net">georger@nls.net</A>&gt; wrote=20
  in message <A=20
  =
href=3D"news:41437e02$1@w3.nls.net">news:41437e02$1@w3.nls.net</A>...</DI=
V>I=20
  said nothing of the sort, I never mentioned protecting AOL users. What =
I=20
  said<BR>was that SPF protects mike when someone spams AOL users but if =
they=20
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  implemented SPF.<BR><BR>So perhaps you can explain the sanity in your=20
  statement where you say mike's<BR>protection depends on AT&amp;T =
implementing=20
  SPF?<BR><BR>Hey, if that's how you think then here's a thought, while =
you are=20
  depending on<BR>AT&amp;T for your security, why don't you depend on =
the ISP's=20
  to kill the spammers<BR>accounts? Then you don't need any of this=20
  crap.<BR><BR>Geo.<BR><BR>"Rich" &lt;@&gt; wrote in message <A=20
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p;&nbsp;=20
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  against<BR>anyone that wants to spam the millions upon millions of AOL =

  customers.&nbsp; Sounds<BR>like a very valuable mechanism.&nbsp; To =
bad=20
  AT&amp;T doesn't support it currently.&nbsp;&nbsp; In<BR>your terms, =
the gate=20
  around AOL is good and solid while AT&amp;T hasn't built=20
  one<BR>yet.<BR><BR>Rich<BR><BR><BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>

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