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Skriven 2005-06-24 00:19:10 av Rich (1:379/45)
   Kommentar till text 5341 av Mike '/m' (1:379/45)
Ärende: Re: oracle returning wrong data to mike, again
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   Nice spin on own your earlier attempts to lay blame for you getting =
bad results from your oracle database.  We can ignore that which index = if any
is the "primary" index is not relevant despite you trying to = assert a
connection.  What you fail to mention about that thread is that = beside your
assertion and your repeated attempts to spread blame = elsewhere you never
identified what was wrong, what you changed to get = the correct results from
oracle, and some evidence to support your = disparaging statements.  Do you
really want to discuss why your make = disparaging remarks but make a diversion
when asked to back up your = claims?

   As for your new attempts to question why SQLPrimaryKeys may not be =
used, a simple answer is that it is often buggy, its level 2 not level = 1, and
other than UI to display a linked table's definition it doesn't = matter.  See
=
http://support.borland.com/entry.jspa?externalID=3D1623&categoryID=3D333 = for
an example of it returning incorrect results for oracle.  See =
http://community.borland.com/article/0,1410,25091,0.html for an example = of it
returning incorrect results for interbase.  You probably should = avoid calling
SQLPrimaryKeys for mysql too.  See = http://bugs.mysql.com/bug.php?id=3D3797.

Rich

  "Mike '/m'" <mike@barkto.com> wrote in message =
news:v4dmb15fampi1025tim8ssifm43kqusg1f@4ax.com...
  On Thu, 23 Jun 2005 06:24:23 -0400, "Geo" <georger@nls.net> wrote:

  >"John Cuccia" <jcuccia@bigfoot.com> wrote in message
  >news:u1djb1dkjvvqk9j4clgajl86tuhtsott6j@4ax.com...
  >> Well, I've read the thread between you and Geo and I am confused.
  >>
  >> Would you mind explaining again, please?
  >
  >He's worried that if he explains in plain terms that it might be news =
(I
  >would think deliberately inaccurate security bulletins would be a =
news
  >worthy item) and he might get quoted and then he might get in trouble =
for
  >telling the truth when it's pretty obvious that MS isn't interested =
in the
  >truth being known.
  >
  >I don't want Rich to ever get in trouble for talking to us, do you?

  I'd never want anyone to get into trouble for what is posted here. =20

  I am just not convinced that is Rich's reason for being so obstinate
  here.  He was similarly obstinate when I brought up the problem with =
MS
  Access returning the wrong data via an ODBC connection.  He even said
  that the ODBC API doesn't identify the primary index, even though =
there
  is an SQLPrimaryKeys ODBC call which does return the primary key.  I
  even posted a link to that ODBC call on Microsoft's site.  Why doesn't
  MS Access use it, instead of posting a "working as designed" KB =
article.

  When I tried to get clarification on that thread, all I received was =
the
  similar barrage of ad hominem insults that I have been receiving here =
on
  the buffer overrun topic.

  On the other hand, if Rich does not want to have to answer questions =
in
  threads because he may fear being quoted, as you say, then maybe it
  would be better for him to just stay out of the thread or not answer =
the
  questions, instead of throwing insults. =20

    /m
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp; Nice spin on own your =
earlier attempts=20
to lay blame for you getting bad results from your oracle = database.&nbsp; We
can=20
ignore that which index if any is the "primary" index is not relevant =
despite=20
you trying to assert a connection.&nbsp; What you fail to mention about =
that=20
thread is that beside your assertion and your repeated attempts to = spread
blame=20
elsewhere you never identified what was wrong, what you changed to get = the=20
correct results from oracle, and some evidence to support your = disparaging=20
statements.&nbsp; Do you really want to discuss why your make = disparaging=20
remarks but make a diversion when asked to back up your = claims?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp; As for your new attempts =
to question=20
why SQLPrimaryKeys may not be used, a simple answer is that it is often =
buggy,=20
its level 2 not level 1,&nbsp;and other than UI to display a linked =
table's=20
definition it doesn't matter.&nbsp; See <A=20
href=3D"http://support.borland.com/entry.jspa?externalID=3D1623&amp;categ=
oryID=3D333">http://support.borland.com/entry.jspa?externalID=3D1623&amp;=
categoryID=3D333</A>&nbsp;for=20
an example of it returning incorrect results for oracle.&nbsp; See <A=20
href=3D"http://community.borland.com/article/0,1410,25091,0.html">http://=
community.borland.com/article/0,1410,25091,0.html</A>&nbsp;for=20
an example of it returning incorrect results for interbase.&nbsp; You =
probably=20
should avoid calling SQLPrimaryKeys for mysql too.&nbsp; See <A=20
href=3D"http://bugs.mysql.com/bug.php?id=3D3797">http://bugs.mysql.com/bu=
g.php?id=3D3797</A>.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Rich</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE=20
style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
  <DIV>"Mike '/m'" &lt;<A =
href=3D"mailto:mike@barkto.com">mike@barkto.com</A>&gt;=20
  wrote in message <A=20
  =
href=3D"news:v4dmb15fampi1025tim8ssifm43kqusg1f@4ax.com">news:v4dmb15famp=
i1025tim8ssifm43kqusg1f@4ax.com</A>...</DIV>On=20
  Thu, 23 Jun 2005 06:24:23 -0400, "Geo" &lt;<A=20
  href=3D"mailto:georger@nls.net">georger@nls.net</A>&gt; =
wrote:<BR><BR>&gt;"John=20
  Cuccia" &lt;<A =
href=3D"mailto:jcuccia@bigfoot.com">jcuccia@bigfoot.com</A>&gt;=20
  wrote in=20
  =
message<BR>&gt;news:u1djb1dkjvvqk9j4clgajl86tuhtsott6j@4ax.com...<BR>&gt;=
&gt;=20
  Well, I've read the thread between you and Geo and I am=20
  confused.<BR>&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt; Would you mind explaining again,=20
  please?<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;He's worried that if he explains in plain terms =
that it=20
  might be news (I<BR>&gt;would think deliberately inaccurate security =
bulletins=20
  would be a news<BR>&gt;worthy item) and he might get quoted and then =
he might=20
  get in trouble for<BR>&gt;telling the truth when it's pretty obvious =
that MS=20
  isn't interested in the<BR>&gt;truth being known.<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;I =
don't want=20
  Rich to ever get in trouble for talking to us, do you?<BR><BR>I'd =
never want=20
  anyone to get into trouble for what is posted here.&nbsp; <BR><BR>I am =
just=20
  not convinced that is Rich's reason for being so =
obstinate<BR>here.&nbsp; He=20
  was similarly obstinate when I brought up the problem with =
MS<BR>Access=20
  returning the wrong data via an ODBC connection.&nbsp; He even =
said<BR>that=20
  the ODBC API doesn't identify the primary index, even though =
there<BR>is an=20
  SQLPrimaryKeys ODBC call which does return the primary key.&nbsp; =
I<BR>even=20
  posted a link to that ODBC call on Microsoft's site.&nbsp; Why =
doesn't<BR>MS=20
  Access use it, instead of posting a "working as designed" KB=20
  article.<BR><BR>When I tried to get clarification on that thread, all =
I=20
  received was the<BR>similar barrage of ad hominem insults that I have =
been=20
  receiving here on<BR>the buffer overrun topic.<BR><BR>On the other =
hand, if=20
  Rich does not want to have to answer questions in<BR>threads because =
he may=20
  fear being quoted, as you say, then maybe it<BR>would be better for =
him to=20
  just stay out of the thread or not answer the<BR>questions, instead of =

  throwing insults.&nbsp; <BR><BR>&nbsp; /m</BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>

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