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Skriven 2005-07-05 00:06:30 av Mark (1:379/45)
     Kommentar till en text av Rich (1:379/45)
Ärende: Re: An Army of Soulless 1's and 0's
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From: "Mark" <nomail@hotmail.com>

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Oh, yea, I didn't mean to imply that Google was "special" in any way = (I've no
horse in their race), I just meant to note that they're still = free and offer,
so far as I know (and so far), the same features as the = paid accounts in the
premium alternatives from whomever.
  "Rich" <@> wrote in message news:42ca0144$1@w3.nls.net...
     I believe all the major email providers have been learning from =
reported spam for a while.  Hotmail and MSN have.

  Rich

    "Mark" <nomail@hotmail.com> wrote in message =
news:42c9fb07$1@w3.nls.net...
    Google's gmail also puts almost all the spam in the spam folder and =
"learns"=20
    as well, both from "report spam" on an individual level <as well as, =
I'm=20
    sure, consolidation from all "reports">

    I've been pleased with it and decided to forward all my other =
accounts to=20
    it, so use it exclusively at this point. <if I need to send an email =
"from"=20
    a particular account I just use that accounts webmail set-up, so =
haven't=20
    launched Outlook (or Eudora) since I started forwarding>


    "Ellen K." <72322.1016@compuserve.com> wrote in message=20
    news:04tjc114o6fhquifr83u4j6i2v6o6rull4@4ax.com...
    > Agree re Yahoo.   I have a throwaway account with them and am =
seriously
    > considering getting a real one.  They put most of the spam into =
the spam
    > folder by themselves, and you can mark something in the regular =
folder
    > spam and it learns from that.
    >
    > On Mon, 04 Jul 2005 09:28:34 -0400, Mike '/m' <mike@barkto.com> =
wrote in
    > message <g4eic1hb5d1v6lfidmvchleduslt3iargk@4ax.com>:
    >
    >>
    >>When my sister-in-law's PC became a zombie, her ISP (adelphia =
cable)
    >>turned off her email account.  She could neither send nor receive =
email.
    >>For my sister-in-law, that was about the same as taking away the =
PC.
    >>
    >>Since then, I have hardened her PC and switched her away from =
Lookout!
    >>Distress and over to Yahoo! email.  She is a lot happier now.  =
Yahoo!
    >>seems to do a good job blocking malicious stuff in the emails.
    >>
    >> /m
    >>
    >>
    >>On Sat, 02 Jul 2005 22:41:43 -0700, Ellen K. =
<72322.1016@compuserve.com>
    >>wrote:
    >>
    >>>Ha, imagine if anyone found to be running a zombie machine had =
their
    >>>computer taken away from them!!!!!!!
    >>>
    >>>On Thu, 30 Jun 2005 20:08:56 -0700, "Rich" <@> wrote in message
    >>><42c4b2b7@w3.nls.net>:
    >>>
    >>>>   There are obvious conclusions.  Just consider why your =
machine is not=20
    >>>> infected when you run the same software.  You exercise better=20
    >>>> judgement.  Would you claim that car accidents from DUIs are =
due to a=20
    >>>> problem with the cars or the drivers?  Are the folks that have =
not been=20
    >>>> DUI lucky their car didn't make them DUI or might they exercise =
better=20
    >>>> judgement?
    >=20


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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Oh, yea, I didn't mean to imply that =
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  <DIV>"Rich" &lt;@&gt; wrote in message <A=20
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  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp; I believe all the major =
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  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Rich</FONT></DIV>
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    <DIV>"Mark" &lt;<A=20
    href=3D"mailto:nomail@hotmail.com">nomail@hotmail.com</A>&gt; wrote =
in message=20
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    =
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V>Google's=20
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<BR>as=20
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I'm=20
    <BR>sure, consolidation from all "reports"&gt;<BR><BR>I've been =
pleased with=20
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    exclusively at this point. &lt;if I need to send an email "from" =
<BR>a=20
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haven't=20
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t;=20
    wrote in message <BR><A=20
    =
href=3D"news:04tjc114o6fhquifr83u4j6i2v6o6rull4@4ax.com">news:04tjc114o6f=
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    Agree re Yahoo.&nbsp;&nbsp; I have a throwaway account with them and =
am=20
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most of the=20
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something=20
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that.<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;=20
    On Mon, 04 Jul 2005 09:28:34 -0400, Mike '/m' &lt;<A=20
    href=3D"mailto:mike@barkto.com">mike@barkto.com</A>&gt; wrote =
in<BR>&gt;=20
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    =
href=3D"mailto:g4eic1hb5d1v6lfidmvchleduslt3iargk@4ax.com">g4eic1hb5d1v6l=
fidmvchleduslt3iargk@4ax.com</A>&gt;:<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;When=
=20
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hardened=20
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over to=20
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Yahoo!<BR>&gt;&gt;seems=20
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/m<BR>&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;On=20
    Sat, 02 Jul 2005 22:41:43 -0700, Ellen K. &lt;<A=20
    =
href=3D"mailto:72322.1016@compuserve.com">72322.1016@compuserve.com</A>&g=
t;<BR>&gt;&gt;wrote:<BR>&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;Ha,=20
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    them!!!!!!!<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;On Thu, 30 Jun 2005 =
20:08:56=20
    -0700, "Rich" &lt;@&gt; wrote in message<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&lt;<A=20
    =
href=3D"mailto:42c4b2b7@w3.nls.net">42c4b2b7@w3.nls.net</A>&gt;:<BR>&gt;&=
gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
    There are obvious conclusions.&nbsp; Just consider why your machine =
is not=20
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You=20
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claim that=20
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with the=20
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