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Skriven 2005-07-05 17:03:04 av Rich (1:379/45)
Kommentar till text 5692 av Randy (1:379/45)
Ärende: Re: An Army of Soulless 1's and 0's
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From: "Rich" <@>
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This could be funny. Since you dispute that a counter example =
disproves a false assertion, can you please post your proof for the = opposite.
I bet it is a hoot.
Rich
"Randy" <@> wrote in message news:42cb1267@w3.nls.net...
Nope-it just shows that when faced when proving something you know you =
can't prove, you attack the poster.=20
"Rich" <@> wrote in message news:42cb1088@w3.nls.net...
Only one counter example is required to disprove a false =
assertion. Maybe you should give yourself a refresher on basic logic.
Rich
"Randy" <@> wrote in message news:42cb0191@w3.nls.net...
2 datapoints out of millions is statistically insigificant, =
therefore insufficient. Since you have failed to prove you assertion, = this
thread ends.
"Rich" <@> wrote in message news:42cab5ea@w3.nls.net...
If proof is insufficient they you will never be satisfied. =
You may as well join mike miller in his spin.
Rich
"Randy" <@> wrote in message news:42ca8208@w3.nls.net...
Still insufficient.=20
"Rich" <@> wrote in message news:42ca00ea@w3.nls.net...
Proof by example. People here other than I have done it. =
Haven't you?
Rich
"Randy" <@> wrote in message news:42c9d965@w3.nls.net...
Sice you haven't proven it the answer is still no.
"Rich" <@> wrote in message news:42c9b036@w3.nls.net...
The answer to his question is yes so by your =
definition it is also spin, spin, spin.
Rich
"Randy" <@> wrote in message =
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It's not spin if this does happen. So far, you haven't =
proven that it doesn't.
"Rich" <@> wrote in message =
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Spin, spin, spin. How very typical mike miller.
Rich
"Mike '/m'" <mike@barkto.com> wrote in message =
news:jsvrb1lgj40fibn8e53pkn96m98oos4p78@4ax.com...
Yup. The question is: can you install Windows on =
a PC that is connected
to the internet via broadband, and get that system =
patched before it is
infested?
/m
On Sat, 25 Jun 2005 21:27:30 -0400, "Tony =
Ingenoso" <admin@spamcop.net>
wrote:
>So? That means nothing if they're exploited =
within a matter of minutes
>anyway.
>
>"Rich" <@> wrote in message =
news:42bde926$1@w3.nls.net...
Did you read the article lead in that was =
posted. Let me quote it again
For thousands of Internet users, the offer =
seemed all too alluring: revealing pictures of Jennifer Lopez, available = at a
mere click of the mouse.
But the pictures never appeared. The offer was a =
ruse, and the click downloaded software code that turned the user's = computer
into a launching pad for Internet warfare.
Whether or not people reinstall or use firewalls =
makes no difference when users go out of their way to infect themselves. =
Antivirus and antispyware applications that use rules to block user =
action can help here but those won't block something they don't know = about
and if they do warn the user and require confirmation likely many = users will
approve that just as they confirmed their action when warned = for the initial
download attempt.
Rich
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2> This could be funny. =
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<DIV><BR>Rich</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Nope-it just shows that when faced when proving =
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2> Only one counter =
example is=20
required to disprove a false assertion. Maybe you should give =
yourself=20
a refresher on basic logic.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Rich</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2>2 datapoints out of millions is statistically=20
insigificant, therefore insufficient. Since you have failed to =
prove you=20
assertion, this thread ends.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>"Rich" <@> wrote in message <A=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2> If proof is =
insufficient they=20
you will never be satisfied. You may as well join mike =
miller in=20
his spin.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Rich</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Still insufficient. </FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2> Proof by =
example. =20
People here other than I have done it. Haven't=20
you?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Rich</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Sice you haven't proven it the answer =
is still=20
no.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV>"Rich" <@> wrote in message <A=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2> The answer =
to his=20
question is yes so by your definition it is also spin, =
spin,=20
spin.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Rich</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2>It's not spin if this does happen. =
So far,=20
you haven't proven that it doesn't.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2> Spin, =
spin,=20
spin. How very typical mike =
miller.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Rich</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV>"Mike '/m'" <<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:mike@barkto.com">mike@barkto.com</A>>=20
wrote in message <A=20
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fibn8e53pkn96m98oos4p78@4ax.com</A>...</DIV><BR>Yup. =20
The question is: can you install Windows on a PC =
that is=20
connected<BR>to the internet via broadband, and =
get that=20
system patched before it =
is<BR>infested?<BR><BR> =20
/m<BR><BR>On Sat, 25 Jun 2005 21:27:30 -0400, =
"Tony=20
Ingenoso" <<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:admin@spamcop.net">admin@spamcop.net</A>><BR>wrote:<BR>=
<BR>>So? =20
That means nothing if they're exploited within a =
matter of=20
minutes<BR>>anyway.<BR>><BR>>"Rich" =
<@>=20
wrote in message <A=20
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href=3D"news:42bde926$1@w3.nls.net">news:42bde926$1@w3.nls.net</A>...<BR>=
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2> Did =
you read the=20
article lead in that was posted. Let me =
quote it=20
again</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial =
size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#008000 =
size=3D2>For thousands=20
of Internet users, the offer seemed all too =
alluring:=20
revealing pictures of Jennifer Lopez, available =
at a=20
mere click of the mouse.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#008000></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><FONT =
color=3D#008000>But the=20
pictures never appeared. The offer was a ruse, =
and the=20
click downloaded software code that turned the =
user's=20
computer into a launching pad for Internet=20
warfare.</FONT><BR></FONT></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial =
size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Whether or not =
people=20
reinstall or use firewalls makes no difference =
when users=20
go out of their way to infect themselves. =
Antivirus=20
and antispyware applications that use rules to =
block user=20
action can help here but those won't block =
something they=20
don't know about and if they do warn the user and =
require=20
confirmation likely many users will approve that =
just as=20
they confirmed their action when warned for the =
initial=20
download attempt.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial =
size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial=20
=
size=3D2>Rich</FONT></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQ=
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