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Skriven 2005-07-05 21:01:42 av Rich (1:379/45)
Kommentar till text 5694 av Tony Ingenoso (1:379/45)
Ärende: Re: Productivity
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From: "Rich" <@>
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You appear to have forgotten your claim and are incapable of reading =
it to remind yourself. Whether you can still run Windows 3.1 is not =
relevant. You need to support you claim that nothing since provides any =
productivity improvement. Note that virtually all of the Internet falls = in
the category of "anything since about the 486 and Win31 or OS/2" = though this
is not by far all you were making claims about. You also = have not made any
attempt to support your claim of software getting = slower.
Rich
"Tony Ingenoso" <admin@spamcop.net> wrote in message =
news:42cb2eeb$1@w3.nls.net...
Win31 and OS/2 have browsers and email. They still work fine.
Software doesn't rot like wood.
About 3 months ago I surfed the web with Win31 running the Win31 IE5 =
on a
486DX33 and it performed as well as anything else for the pages I was
viewing.
Now you can tell me how I was hallucinating the whole experience...
"Rich" <@> wrote in message news:42caff8b@w3.nls.net...
Let me remind everyone of your claim so that you know what it is =
you are
trying to support. You clearly forgot what you wrote. Remember to =
include
Windows 3.1 and OS/2 in your reply and also to support your claim of
software being slower.
"Tony Ingenoso" <admin@spamcop.net> wrote in message
news:42c34a24@w3.nls.net...
I reject the notion of you placing such constraints on my =
comparason.
"Rich" <@> wrote in message news:42c31ca0@w3.nls.net...
Of software users use for productivity tasks (e.g. not games =
nor
likely multimedia) that has gotten slower. Since you mention the 486 =
I
would expect the comparison to be between someone that purchased a new
computer and software in 1989 when the 486 was introduced and someone =
that
purchases a new computer and software today.
Rich
"Tony Ingenoso" <admin@spamcop.net> wrote in message
news:42c3170b@w3.nls.net...
Examples of what?
"Rich" <@> wrote in message news:42c31595@w3.nls.net...
Can you give real world examples?
Rich
"Tony Ingenoso" <admin@spamcop.net> wrote in message
news:42c3121d$1@w3.nls.net...
In terms of real life bankable productivity gains, I'm not =
convinced
anything since about the 486 and Win31 or OS/2 has actually =
made
ordinary
users more productive in meaningful ways.
The software has gotten slower about as fast as the hardware =
has
gotten
faster ;->
Rich
"Tony Ingenoso" <admin@spamcop.net> wrote in message
news:42cacd68@w3.nls.net...
FACT: Microsoft shipped NT4 and several modern versions of Office =
and
IE/OE
that support 486 class machines.
QED
"Rich" <@> wrote in message news:42ca228b@w3.nls.net...
Still trying to change the topic. You made a claim. Support =
your
claim
with facts. Asking random questions is not supporting your claims.
Rich
"Tony Ingenoso" <admin@spamcop.net> wrote in message
news:42ca2080$1@w3.nls.net...
OK, I'll wast the bandwidth is you want.
So why is it again that NT4 and IE/OE's through at least 6.X =
support the
486?
If they're not productive, why do you support them?
"Rich" <@> wrote in message news:42c8a45b@w3.nls.net...
Still trying to change the topic. Let's remind everyone of =
what you
wrote. If you want to save bandwidth please answer the question =
and
provide
support for the claims you made.
"Tony Ingenoso" <admin@spamcop.net> wrote in message
news:42c34a24@w3.nls.net...
I reject the notion of you placing such constraints on my
comparason.
"Rich" <@> wrote in message news:42c31ca0@w3.nls.net...
Of software users use for productivity tasks (e.g. not =
games nor
likely multimedia) that has gotten slower. Since you mention the =
486 I
would expect the comparison to be between someone that purchased a =
new
computer and software in 1989 when the 486 was introduced and =
someone
that
purchases a new computer and software today.
Rich
"Tony Ingenoso" <admin@spamcop.net> wrote in message
news:42c3170b@w3.nls.net...
Examples of what?
"Rich" <@> wrote in message news:42c31595@w3.nls.net...
Can you give real world examples?
Rich
"Tony Ingenoso" <admin@spamcop.net> wrote in message
news:42c3121d$1@w3.nls.net...
In terms of real life bankable productivity gains, I'm not
convinced
anything since about the 486 and Win31 or OS/2 has =
actually made
ordinary
users more productive in meaningful ways.
The software has gotten slower about as fast as the =
hardware has
gotten
faster ;->
Rich
"Tony Ingenoso" <admin@spamcop.net> wrote in message
news:42c83368@w3.nls.net...
How many 486 class machines shipped with Win95 preloaded?
Is the number more than zero?
"Rich" <@> wrote in message news:42c7270f@w3.nls.net...
Good that you admit that part of your claim was bullshit. =
Now how
about
the rest?
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2> You appear to have =
forgotten your=20
claim and are incapable of reading it to remind yourself. Whether = you
can=20
still run Windows 3.1 is not relevant. You need to support you = claim
that=20
nothing since provides any productivity improvement. Note that =
virtually=20
all of the Internet falls in the category of "<FONT face=3D"Times New =
Roman"=20
size=3D3>anything since about the 486 and Win31 or OS/2</FONT>" though = this
is not=20
by far all you were making claims about. You also have not made = any=20
attempt to support your claim of software getting slower.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Rich</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV>"Tony Ingenoso" <<A=20
href=3D"mailto:admin@spamcop.net">admin@spamcop.net</A>> wrote in =
message <A=20
=
href=3D"news:42cb2eeb$1@w3.nls.net">news:42cb2eeb$1@w3.nls.net</A>...</DI=
V>Win31=20
and OS/2 have browsers and email. They still work =
fine.<BR><BR>Software=20
doesn't rot like wood.<BR><BR>About 3 months ago I surfed the web with =
Win31=20
running the Win31 IE5 on a<BR>486DX33 and it performed as well as =
anything=20
else for the pages I was<BR>viewing.<BR><BR>Now you can tell me how I =
was=20
hallucinating the whole experience...<BR><BR>"Rich" <@> wrote in =
message=20
<A=20
=
href=3D"news:42caff8b@w3.nls.net">news:42caff8b@w3.nls.net</A>...<BR>&nbs=
p; =20
Let me remind everyone of your claim so that you know what it is you=20
are<BR>trying to support. You clearly forgot what you =
wrote. =20
Remember to include<BR>Windows 3.1 and OS/2 in your reply and also to =
support=20
your claim of<BR>software being slower.<BR><BR> =
"Tony=20
Ingenoso" <<A =
href=3D"mailto:admin@spamcop.net">admin@spamcop.net</A>>=20
wrote in message<BR><A=20
=
href=3D"news:42c34a24@w3.nls.net">news:42c34a24@w3.nls.net</A>...<BR>&nbs=
p; =20
I reject the notion of you placing such constraints on my=20
comparason.<BR><BR> "Rich" <@> wrote in =
message <A=20
=
href=3D"news:42c31ca0@w3.nls.net">news:42c31ca0@w3.nls.net</A>...<BR><BR>=
=20
Of software users use for productivity tasks (e.g. not games =
nor<BR>likely=20
multimedia) that has gotten slower. Since you mention the 486 =
I<BR>would=20
expect the comparison to be between someone that purchased a =
new<BR>computer=20
and software in 1989 when the 486 was introduced and someone =
that<BR>purchases=20
a new computer and software today.<BR><BR> =20
Rich<BR><BR> "Tony Ingenoso" <<A=20
href=3D"mailto:admin@spamcop.net">admin@spamcop.net</A>> wrote in=20
message<BR><A=20
=
href=3D"news:42c3170b@w3.nls.net">news:42c3170b@w3.nls.net</A>...<BR>&nbs=
p; =20
Examples of what?<BR><BR> "Rich" =
<@> wrote=20
in message <A=20
=
href=3D"news:42c31595@w3.nls.net">news:42c31595@w3.nls.net</A>...<BR>&nbs=
p; =20
Can you give real world =
examples?<BR><BR> =20
Rich<BR><BR> "Tony Ingenoso" =
<<A=20
href=3D"mailto:admin@spamcop.net">admin@spamcop.net</A>> wrote in=20
message<BR> <A=20
=
href=3D"news:42c3121d$1@w3.nls.net">news:42c3121d$1@w3.nls.net</A>...<BR>=
=20
In terms of real life bankable productivity gains, I'm not=20
convinced<BR> anything since =
about=20
the 486 and Win31 or OS/2 has actually=20
made<BR>ordinary<BR> users =
more=20
productive in meaningful=20
ways.<BR><BR> The software =
has=20
gotten slower about as fast as the hardware=20
has<BR>gotten<BR> faster=20
;-><BR><BR><BR><BR>Rich<BR><BR> "Tony Ingenoso" <<A=20
href=3D"mailto:admin@spamcop.net">admin@spamcop.net</A>> wrote in=20
message<BR><A=20
=
href=3D"news:42cacd68@w3.nls.net">news:42cacd68@w3.nls.net</A>...<BR>&nbs=
p;=20
FACT: Microsoft shipped NT4 and several modern versions of Office=20
and<BR>IE/OE<BR> that support 486 class machines.<BR><BR> =20
QED<BR><BR> "Rich" <@> wrote in message <A=20
=
href=3D"news:42ca228b@w3.nls.net">news:42ca228b@w3.nls.net</A>...<BR>&nbs=
p; =20
Still trying to change the topic. You made a claim. =
Support=20
your<BR>claim<BR> with facts. Asking random questions is =
not=20
supporting your claims.<BR><BR> Rich<BR><BR> =
"Tony=20
Ingenoso" <<A =
href=3D"mailto:admin@spamcop.net">admin@spamcop.net</A>>=20
wrote in message<BR> <A=20
=
href=3D"news:42ca2080$1@w3.nls.net">news:42ca2080$1@w3.nls.net</A>...<BR>=
=20
OK, I'll wast the bandwidth is you want.<BR><BR> So =
why is=20
it again that NT4 and IE/OE's through at least 6.X support=20
the<BR> 486?<BR><BR> If they're =
not=20
productive, why do you support them?<BR><BR> "Rich"=20
<@> wrote in message <A=20
=
href=3D"news:42c8a45b@w3.nls.net">news:42c8a45b@w3.nls.net</A>...<BR>&nbs=
p; =20
Still trying to change the topic. Let's remind everyone of what=20
you<BR> wrote. If you want to save bandwidth =
please=20
answer the question and<BR> provide<BR> =
support for=20
the claims you made.<BR><BR> =
"Tony=20
Ingenoso" <<A =
href=3D"mailto:admin@spamcop.net">admin@spamcop.net</A>>=20
wrote in message<BR> <A=20
=
href=3D"news:42c34a24@w3.nls.net">news:42c34a24@w3.nls.net</A>...<BR>&nbs=
p; =20
I reject the notion of you placing such constraints on=20
my<BR>comparason.<BR><BR> =
"Rich"=20
<@> wrote in message <A=20
=
href=3D"news:42c31ca0@w3.nls.net">news:42c31ca0@w3.nls.net</A>...<BR><BR>=
=20
Of software users use for productivity tasks (e.g. not games=20
nor<BR> likely multimedia) that has gotten =
slower. =20
Since you mention the 486 I<BR> would expect the =
comparison=20
to be between someone that purchased a new<BR> =
computer and=20
software in 1989 when the 486 was introduced and=20
someone<BR>that<BR> purchases a new computer and =
software=20
today.<BR><BR> =20
Rich<BR><BR> =
"Tony=20
Ingenoso" <<A =
href=3D"mailto:admin@spamcop.net">admin@spamcop.net</A>>=20
wrote in message<BR> <A=20
=
href=3D"news:42c3170b@w3.nls.net">news:42c3170b@w3.nls.net</A>...<BR>&nbs=
p; =20
Examples of=20
what?<BR><BR> =
"Rich"=20
<@> wrote in message <A=20
=
href=3D"news:42c31595@w3.nls.net">news:42c31595@w3.nls.net</A>...<BR>&nbs=
p; =20
Can you give real world=20
=
examples?<BR><BR> =20
=
Rich<BR><BR> &=
nbsp;=20
"Tony Ingenoso" <<A=20
href=3D"mailto:admin@spamcop.net">admin@spamcop.net</A>> wrote in=20
message<BR> <A=20
=
href=3D"news:42c3121d$1@w3.nls.net">news:42c3121d$1@w3.nls.net</A>...<BR>=
=20
In terms of real life bankable productivity gains, I'm not<BR> =20
=
convinced<BR> =
=20
anything since about the 486 and Win31 or OS/2 has actually=20
made<BR> =20
=
ordinary<BR> &=
nbsp;=20
users more productive in meaningful=20
=
ways.<BR><BR> =
=20
The software has gotten slower about as fast as the hardware=20
has<BR> =20
=
gotten<BR> &nb=
sp;=20
faster ;-><BR><BR><BR><BR> =20
Rich<BR><BR> "Tony Ingenoso" <<A=20
href=3D"mailto:admin@spamcop.net">admin@spamcop.net</A>> wrote in=20
message<BR> <A=20
=
href=3D"news:42c83368@w3.nls.net">news:42c83368@w3.nls.net</A>...<BR>&nbs=
p; =20
How many 486 class machines shipped with Win95=20
preloaded?<BR><BR> Is the number more =
than=20
zero?<BR><BR> "Rich" <@> wrote in =
message=20
<A=20
=
href=3D"news:42c7270f@w3.nls.net">news:42c7270f@w3.nls.net</A>...<BR>&nbs=
p; =20
Good that you admit that part of your claim was bullshit. Now=20
how<BR> about<BR> the=20
rest?<BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>
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