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Skriven 2005-07-09 14:25:38 av Rich (1:379/45)
Ärende: Re: Disk perf
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From: "Rich" <@>

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   Opening the browser for me waits for the network only.  Purging the =
browser cache, which is nothing but deleting thousands of files, is disk =
intensive.  It's also a very uncommon operation.

   I do notice what I wait for.  If I'm not doing something stressful =
like a build or SQL query which are disk and CPU intenstive, I'm waiting = on
the network.  I have enough memory so it isn't an issue for me.  = Again I'll
use my father as an example.  When he is waiting it is on = memory.

Rich

  "Geo" <georger@nls.net> wrote in message news:42d03cdb@w3.nls.net...
  No, you don't need gig video files to experience disk lag, heck just =
open IE or purge it's cache. Open outlook express and count how many = seconds
your disk runs. There are tons of things that peg the disk.

  Look, I'm not saying you don't have valid points, but keep your eyes =
open for a few days and every time you find yourself waiting for the =
computer, take a look at the disk light. Is it pegged?

  Geo.
    "Rich" <@> wrote in message news:42d01a2e@w3.nls.net...
       Waiting on what, processing the gigabyte video files you =
mentioned earlier in this thread?  Sure.  I have plenty of tasks I = perform
that are very sensitive to disk performance.  These are not = ordinary
operations.  When I look at what affects performance for my = father, it is
memory.  When I'm not performing something disk intenstive = like a build or
SQL queries of large data sets, it's memory for me too.  = You could take this
to an extreme.  With 16GB of RAM many of the disk = intensive operations I
perform wouldn't be but at this point the = additional memory is used as a disk
cache not application memory.

    Rich

      "Geo" <georger@nls.net> wrote in message =
news:42d01800$1@w3.nls.net...
      I'm not saying memory can't be a bottleneck, it's just that when I =
notice I'm waiting on something on the computer, the disk is always = going
full tilt. On my work machine which is just a 2ghz box, it feels = like a much
faster machine than any of the other systems I have. It's = also the only
system with high speed scsi disks, and I still end up wait = for disk at times.

      Geo.

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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp; Opening the browser for me =
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deleting=20
thousands of files, is disk intensive.&nbsp; It's also a very uncommon=20
operation.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp; I do notice what I wait =
for.&nbsp; If=20
I'm not doing something stressful like a build or SQL query which are = disk
and=20
CPU intenstive, I'm waiting on the network.&nbsp; I have enough memory = so
it=20
isn't an issue for me.&nbsp; Again I'll use my father as an = example.&nbsp;
When=20
he is waiting it is on memory.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Rich</FONT></DIV>
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  <DIV>"Geo" &lt;<A =
href=3D"mailto:georger@nls.net">georger@nls.net</A>&gt; wrote=20
  in message <A=20
  =
href=3D"news:42d03cdb@w3.nls.net">news:42d03cdb@w3.nls.net</A>...</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>No, you don't need gig video files to =
experience=20
  disk lag, heck just open IE or purge it's cache. Open outlook express =
and=20
  count how many seconds your disk runs. There are tons of things that =
peg the=20
  disk.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Look, I'm not saying you don't have =
valid points,=20
  but keep your eyes open for a few days and every time you find =
yourself=20
  waiting for the computer, take a look at the disk light. Is it=20
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  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Geo.</FONT></DIV>
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    <DIV>"Rich" &lt;@&gt; wrote in message <A=20
    =
href=3D"news:42d01a2e@w3.nls.net">news:42d01a2e@w3.nls.net</A>...</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp; Waiting on what, =
processing the=20
    gigabyte video files you mentioned earlier in this thread?&nbsp; =
Sure.&nbsp;=20
    I have plenty of tasks I perform that are very sensitive to disk=20
    performance.&nbsp; These are not ordinary operations.&nbsp; When I =
look at=20
    what affects performance for my father, it is memory.&nbsp; When I'm =
not=20
    performing something disk intenstive like a build or SQL queries of =
large=20
    data sets, it's memory for me too.&nbsp; You could take this to an=20
    extreme.&nbsp; With 16GB of RAM many of the disk intensive =
operations I=20
    perform wouldn't be but at this point the additional memory is used =
as a=20
    disk cache not application memory.</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Rich</FONT></DIV>
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      <DIV>"Geo" &lt;<A =
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      <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I'm not saying memory can't be a =
bottleneck,=20
      it's just that when I notice I'm waiting on something on the =
computer, the=20
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2ghz=20
      box, it feels like a much faster machine than any of the other =
systems I=20
      have. It's also the only system with high speed scsi disks, and I =
still=20
      end up wait for disk at times.</FONT></DIV>
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      <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Geo.</FONT></DIV>
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