Text 5838, 199 rader
Skriven 2005-07-09 23:05:36 av Rich (1:379/45)
Kommentar till text 5837 av Geo (1:379/45)
Ärende: Re: Unleash Sasser worm - infect 1 million - get 30 hours community ser
===============================================================================
From: "Rich" <@>
This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
------=_NextPart_000_013A_01C584DA.B751DE60
Content-Type: text/plain;
charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
eeye does not give Microsoft code. What ever gave you that silly =
idea? Is eeye giving code in addition to detailed instructions to the = people
that write the exploits and harming the public? I would think = that doing so
would change them from just being irresponsible and having = no regard for
anyone's well being but their own to being criminal? = While that would be
worse, eeye is irreponsible enough by their putting = everyone in danger for
their own financial gain and the instructions = they provide to attackers
sufficient to guide them in their tasks.
The problem with causing people harm like with a worm is that it is =
causing people harm. If someone came to your home and killed your wife = and
children would you assert that there is no harm in doing this = because it
encourages you and your neighbors to better protect = themselves and their
homes? You could also excuse eeye for providing = the instructions how to
enter your home and kill your family. How = stupid can you be? =20
Rich
"Geo" <georger@nls.net> wrote in message news:42d0b379$1@w3.nls.net...
What I really meant to say is that for the 188 days after eeye handed =
microsoft code that gave full remote anonymous access to a machine and = the
time MS issued a patch, MS had full access to every windows computer = on the
internet.
I wonder if that's why it took so long to get a patch?
As to your no favor comment, what's the problem with a worm? How is =
that worm using your resources to spread any different than adware using = your
resources to report your activities to marketers so that they can = use your
resources to stuff ads in your face?
Geo.
"Rich" <@> wrote in message news:42d0b071$1@w3.nls.net...
What you meant to say, at least what you would have meant if you =
wanted to be honest, is that this is a worm created from detailed =
instructions widely distributed by eeye as part of its normal public =
relations and as typical without regard for anyone or anything except = the
financial gain of eeye. Do you think the eeye people are so blind =
as to not forsee the response to their irresponsible behavior?
This kid did no one a favor nor did eeye.
Rich
"Geo" <georger@nls.net> wrote in message =
news:42d0ab27@w3.nls.net...
"Richard B." <TDNBW@barktopus.com> wrote in message
news:t0i0d15cgmcu9m3bm3ubfjb36nu8sd5hso@4ax.com...
> What bullshit. Of course this is what breeds more of his ilk.
Excuse me but this kid did the world a huge favor.
The sasser worm exploits the LSASS vuln discovered by eeye, this =
is a major
Geo.
------=_NextPart_000_013A_01C584DA.B751DE60
Content-Type: text/html;
charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
<HTML><HEAD>
<META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; =
charset=3Diso-8859-1">
<META content=3D"MSHTML 6.00.2900.2668" name=3DGENERATOR>
<STYLE></STYLE>
</HEAD>
<BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2> eeye does not give =
Microsoft=20
code. What ever gave you that silly idea? Is eeye giving = code
in=20
addition to detailed instructions to the people that write the exploits =
and=20
harming the public? I would think that doing so would change them =
from=20
just being irresponsible and having no regard for anyone's well being = but
their=20
own to being criminal? While that would be worse, eeye is =
irreponsible=20
enough by their putting everyone in danger for their own financial gain = and
the=20
instructions they provide to attackers sufficient to guide them in their =
tasks.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2> The problem with causing =
people harm=20
like with a worm is that it is causing people harm. If someone = came
to=20
your home and killed your wife and children would you assert that there = is
no=20
harm in doing this because it encourages you and your neighbors to = better=20
protect themselves and their homes? You could also excuse eeye for =
providing the instructions how to enter your home and kill your =
family. =20
How stupid can you be? </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Rich</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr=20
style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
<DIV>"Geo" <<A =
href=3D"mailto:georger@nls.net">georger@nls.net</A>> wrote=20
in message <A=20
=
href=3D"news:42d0b379$1@w3.nls.net">news:42d0b379$1@w3.nls.net</A>...</DI=
V>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>What I really meant to say is that =
for the 188=20
days after eeye handed microsoft code that gave full remote anonymous =
access=20
to a machine and the time MS issued a patch, MS had full access to =
every=20
windows computer on the internet.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I wonder if that's why it took so =
long to get a=20
patch?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>As to your no favor comment, what's =
the problem=20
with a worm? How is that worm using your resources to spread any =
different=20
than adware using your resources to report your activities to =
marketers so=20
that they can use your resources to stuff ads in your =
face?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Geo.</FONT></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr=20
style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
<DIV>"Rich" <@> wrote in message <A=20
=
href=3D"news:42d0b071$1@w3.nls.net">news:42d0b071$1@w3.nls.net</A>...</DI=
V>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2> What you meant to say, =
at least=20
what you would have meant if you wanted to be honest, is that this =
is a worm=20
created from detailed instructions widely distributed by eeye as =
part of its=20
normal public relations and as typical without regard for anyone or =
anything=20
except the financial gain of eeye. Do you think the eeye =
people=20
are so blind as to not forsee the response to their irresponsible=20
behavior?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2> This kid did no one a =
favor nor=20
did eeye.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Rich</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE=20
style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
<DIV>"Geo" <<A =
href=3D"mailto:georger@nls.net">georger@nls.net</A>>=20
wrote in message <A=20
=
href=3D"news:42d0ab27@w3.nls.net">news:42d0ab27@w3.nls.net</A>...</DIV>"R=
ichard=20
B." <<A =
href=3D"mailto:TDNBW@barktopus.com">TDNBW@barktopus.com</A>>=20
wrote in message<BR><A=20
=
href=3D"news:t0i0d15cgmcu9m3bm3ubfjb36nu8sd5hso@4ax.com">news:t0i0d15cgmc=
u9m3bm3ubfjb36nu8sd5hso@4ax.com</A>...<BR><BR>>=20
What bullshit. Of course this is what breeds more of his=20
ilk.<BR><BR>Excuse me but this kid did the world a huge =
favor.<BR><BR>The=20
sasser worm exploits the LSASS vuln discovered by eeye, this is a=20
=
major<BR><BR><BR>Geo.<BR><BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BOD=
Y></HTML>
------=_NextPart_000_013A_01C584DA.B751DE60--
--- BBBS/NT v4.01 Flag-5
* Origin: Barktopia BBS Site http://HarborWebs.com:8081 (1:379/45)
|