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Text 5873, 234 rader
Skriven 2005-07-10 22:56:20 av Rich Gauszka (1:379/45)
   Kommentar till text 5871 av Rich (1:379/45)
Ärende: Re: Continuing Microsoft Office improvements
====================================================
From: "Rich Gauszka" <gauszka@hotmail.com>

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Just stating that opinion by many ( Gary included ) that their current = Office
software is good enough is valid and that they shouldn't have to = jump through
hoops validating that opinion. =20

I read Ballmer's quote and I still don't know if he is saying that = Office
2003 is deployed on 10 to 15 percent of installed PCs or if he = means all
versions of Office?

 =
http://www.crn.com/sections/breakingnews/breakingnews.jhtml?articleId=3D1=
65701130
"We shipped Office 2003 two years ago and roughly Office is deployed on = just
10 to 15 percent of all installed PCs in the world."=20

And let's confuse people even more by naming the next version Office 12
=20
  "Rich" <@> wrote in message news:42d1d725$1@w3.nls.net...
     Who are you blaming for what?

  Rich

    "Rich Gauszka" <gauszka@hotmail.com> wrote in message =
news:42d1ba93@w3.nls.net...
    Blame the consumer? Is that the new Microsoft tactic that is to be =
used when a user feels no need to upgrade?   Gary's sentiments regarding =
Office are viewed by many. Will the MS attack machine go after the = bloggers
next ? ( sample below )

    http://www.micropersuasion.com/2005/03/microsoft_offic.html
    It's no secret that Microsoft is having difficulty getting Office 97 =
and 2000 users to upgrade to the latest version. Most people use a small =
percentage of the Office suite's full feature set and feel fine with = what
they have.=20

    Or maybe ads with workers in dinosaur masks are just asinine? =
Perhaps MS marketing needs to 'evolve'

    http://www.netimperative.com/2005/04/13/Microsoft_viral
    The "New Era" campaign features actors in an office environment =
wearing dinosaur masks, made by the creators of the Jurassic Park = dinosaurs. 
The ads show the old way of working with Office products, = suggesting that
it's time to evolve with the latest version of Microsoft = Office.=20


    "Rich" <@> wrote in message news:42d1b1ad$1@w3.nls.net...
         95% what market?  You surely do not mean people that speak many =
non-Western languages because Unicode support did not appear until = Office 97
and support for more languages and better support for existing = ones continued
to improve with successive releases.  With your broad = brush you are
discounting a great deal of the people on this planet.  = Far more than 5%. 
Western European language speaker are the minority.  = Even you would have to
be blind to not see the clear improvements = between Office 5.0 or even Office
95 and Office 2000.

         I suspect you have no clue what the improvements are in the two =
releases since the one you use.  If I'm wrong feel free to tell us all = which
Office 2003 applications you use and what differences you = perceived.

      Rich

        "Gary Britt" <zotu@nospamforme.com> wrote in message =
news:42d194f6$1@w3.nls.net...
        The truth be told, Office for Win95 and Office 5.0 for Win3.1 =
was good
        enough for 95% of the market.

        I've stayed at the Office 2K level with no intention on the =
horizon of going
        higher.

        Gary

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<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Just stating that opinion by many ( Gary included ) =
that their=20
current Office software is good&nbsp;enough is valid and that they =
shouldn't=20
have to jump through hoops validating that opinion.&nbsp; </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT><FONT size=3D2>I read Ballmer's quote and I =
still don't=20
know if he is saying that Office 2003 is deployed on 10 to 15 percent of =

installed PCs or if he means all versions of Office?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>&nbsp;</FONT><FONT size=3D2><A=20
href=3D"http://www.crn.com/sections/breakingnews/breakingnews.jhtml?artic=
leId=3D165701130">http://www.crn.com/sections/breakingnews/breakingnews.j=
html?articleId=3D165701130</A></FONT></DIV>
<DIV>"We shipped Office 2003 two years ago and roughly Office is =
deployed on=20
just 10 to 15 percent of all installed PCs in the world." </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>And let's confuse people even more by naming the =
next version=20
Office 12</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr=20
style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
  <DIV>"Rich" &lt;@&gt; wrote in message <A=20
  =
href=3D"news:42d1d725$1@w3.nls.net">news:42d1d725$1@w3.nls.net</A>...</DI=
V>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp; Who are you blaming for=20
  what?</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Rich</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr=20
  style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
    <DIV>"Rich Gauszka" &lt;<A=20
    href=3D"mailto:gauszka@hotmail.com">gauszka@hotmail.com</A>&gt; =
wrote in=20
    message <A=20
    =
href=3D"news:42d1ba93@w3.nls.net">news:42d1ba93@w3.nls.net</A>...</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=3D2>Blame the consumer? Is that the new Microsoft =
tactic that=20
    is to be used when a user feels no need to upgrade?&nbsp;&nbsp; =
Gary's=20
    sentiments regarding Office are viewed by many. Will the MS attack =
machine=20
    go after the bloggers next ? ( sample below )</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=3D2><A=20
    =
href=3D"http://www.micropersuasion.com/2005/03/microsoft_offic.html">http=
://www.micropersuasion.com/2005/03/microsoft_offic.html</A></FONT></DIV>
    <DIV>It's no secret that Microsoft is having difficulty getting =
Office 97=20
    and 2000 users to upgrade to the latest version. Most people use a =
small=20
    percentage of the Office suite's full feature set and feel fine with =
what=20
    they have. </DIV>
    <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=3D2>Or maybe ads with workers in dinosaur masks are =
just=20
    asinine? Perhaps MS marketing needs to 'evolve'</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=3D2><A=20
    =
href=3D"http://www.netimperative.com/2005/04/13/Microsoft_viral">http://w=
ww.netimperative.com/2005/04/13/Microsoft_viral</A></FONT></DIV>
    <DIV>The =93New Era=94 campaign features actors in an office =
environment wearing=20
    dinosaur masks, made by the creators of the <I>Jurassic Park</I>=20
    dinosaurs.&nbsp; The ads show the old way of working with Office =
products,=20
    suggesting that it=92s time to evolve with the latest version of =
Microsoft=20
    Office.&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV>"Rich" &lt;@&gt; wrote in message <A=20
    =
href=3D"news:42d1b1ad$1@w3.nls.net">news:42d1b1ad$1@w3.nls.net</A>...</DI=
V>
    <BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr=20
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BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
      <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp; 95% what =
market?&nbsp; You=20
      surely do not mean people that speak many non-Western languages =
because=20
      Unicode support did not appear until Office 97 and support for =
more=20
      languages and better support for existing ones&nbsp;continued to =
improve=20
      with successive releases.&nbsp; With your broad brush you are =
discounting=20
      a great deal of the people on this planet.&nbsp; Far more than =
5%.&nbsp;=20
      Western European language speaker are the minority.&nbsp; Even you =
would=20
      have to be blind to not see the clear improvements between Office =
5.0 or=20
      even Office 95 and Office 2000.</FONT></DIV>
      <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
      <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp; I suspect you have =
no clue what=20
      the improvements are in the two releases since the one you =
use.&nbsp; If=20
      I'm wrong feel free to tell us all which Office 2003 applications =
you use=20
      and what differences you perceived.</FONT></DIV>
      <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
      <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Rich</FONT></DIV>
      <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
      <BLOCKQUOTE=20
      style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
        <DIV>"Gary Britt" &lt;<A=20
        =
href=3D"mailto:zotu@nospamforme.com">zotu@nospamforme.com</A>&gt; wrote = in=20
        message <A=20
        =
href=3D"news:42d194f6$1@w3.nls.net">news:42d194f6$1@w3.nls.net</A>...</DI=
V>The=20
        truth be told, Office for Win95 and Office 5.0 for Win3.1 was=20
        good<BR>enough for 95% of the market.<BR><BR>I've stayed at the =
Office=20
        2K level with no intention on the horizon of=20
        =
going<BR>higher.<BR><BR>Gary<BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></=
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