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Skriven 2005-07-13 15:48:36 av Rich (1:379/45)
   Kommentar till text 5984 av Mike '/m' (1:379/45)
Ärende: Re: Reality Check
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From: "Rich" <@>

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   You enter 43% or format the cell as a percentage and enter just 43.

Rich

  "Mike '/m'" <mike@barkto.com> wrote in message =
news:aq1bd1hju674cl4s4hegq7j4j53g936jg2@4ax.com...

  Yet another MS Office XP 2002 annoyance.

  I format a cell as percentage.  In order to get 43% in the cell, I =
have
  to enter .43 in Office XP.  In Office 97, there was some intelligence
  and I could just enter 43, and it would know what I wanted.

  I looked and looked for a config parm to change this "feature" back to
  the Office '97 way of doing things, but I can't find anything.


   /m


  On Tue, 12 Jul 2005 16:59:29 -0400, Mike '/m' <mike@barkto.com> wrote:

  >
  >Office '97 here at home.  Reluctantly, Office XP 2002 at work (the =
more
  >I use it, the more I want to go back to Office '97).
  >
  > /m
  >
  >On Mon, 11 Jul 2005 19:29:18 -0400, "Geo" <georger@nls.net> wrote:
  >
  >>Ok time for a survey.
  >>
  >>I run Office 2000, what versions do the rest of you run?
  >>
  >>Geo.
  >>
  >>  "Rich" <@> wrote in message news:42d29689@w3.nls.net...
  >>     If you truly expect 95% than I believe you are full of it and =
just making up junk to sound as if you know something.  Use "some" if = you
mean some.
  >>
  >>  Rich
  >>
  >>    "Gary Britt" <zotu@nospamforme.com> wrote in message =
news:42d292af$1@w3.nls.net...
  >>    I never said it wasn't.  What is it about the definition of the =
words "I
  >>    Suspect" that seem to so trouble your reading comprehension.  =
Quit being
  >>    such a touchy ass about this.  Its not my fault nobody wants to =
upgrade
  >>    their MS Office software.
  >>
  >>    Your employer needs to build a business model that doesn't rely =
upon full
  >>    cost monopoly priced upgrades of products every 9 months.  That =
isn't my
  >>    fault either.  Eventually, people say "wait a minute", again not =
my fault.
  >>
  >>    I guess Microsoft could get lots of office upgrades if they just =
make
  >>    Longhorn incompatible with every version of MS Office except =
<FILL IN NAME
  >>    OF VERSION HERE>.
  >>
  >>    Gary
  >>
  >>    "Rich" <@> wrote in message news:42d28167@w3.nls.net...
  >>       And I still think you have no clue.  The 95% you keep =
claiming is a
  >>    number you pulled out of thin air.
  >>
  >>    Rich
  >>
  >>      "Gary Britt" <zotu@nospamforme.com> wrote in message
  >>    news:42d265b2$1@w3.nls.net...
  >>      You are right that my perspective does not extend outside the =
USA.
  >>
  >>      I never said there weren't *improvements* from Office 5.0 to =
the later
  >>      versions.  I am saying those *improvements* are meaningless to =
95% of the
  >>      market, and in MANY or MOST situations those *improvements* =
are offset by
  >>      dis-incentives and negative changes that are more negative =
than the
  >>      improvements are positive.
  >>
  >>      I like office 2000, have no plans to go above office 2000.  =
Truth is, I
  >>      could easily stayed with Office 5.  I suspect that truth holds =
for 95% of
  >>      the market within my perspective.
  >>
  >>      Gary
  >>
  >>      "Rich" <@> wrote in message news:42d1b1ad$1@w3.nls.net...
  >>         95% what market?  You surely do not mean people that speak =
many
  >>      non-Western languages because Unicode support did not appear =
until Office
  >>    97
  >>      and support for more languages and better support for existing =
ones
  >>      continued to improve with successive releases.  With your =
broad brush you
  >>      are discounting a great deal of the people on this planet.  =
Far more than
  >>      5%.  Western European language speaker are the minority.  Even =
you would
  >>      have to be blind to not see the clear improvements between =
Office 5.0 or
  >>      even Office 95 and Office 2000.
  >>
  >>         I suspect you have no clue what the improvements are in the =
two
  >>    releases
  >>      since the one you use.  If I'm wrong feel free to tell us all =
which Office
  >>      2003 applications you use and what differences you perceived.
  >>
  >>      Rich
  >>
  >>        "Gary Britt" <zotu@nospamforme.com> wrote in message
  >>      news:42d194f6$1@w3.nls.net...
  >>        The truth be told, Office for Win95 and Office 5.0 for =
Win3.1 was good
  >>        enough for 95% of the market.
  >>
  >>        I've stayed at the Office 2K level with no intention on the =
horizon of
  >>      going
  >>        higher.
  >>
  >>        Gary
  >>

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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Rich</FONT></DIV>
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  <DIV>"Mike '/m'" &lt;<A =
href=3D"mailto:mike@barkto.com">mike@barkto.com</A>&gt;=20
  wrote in message <A=20
  =
href=3D"news:aq1bd1hju674cl4s4hegq7j4j53g936jg2@4ax.com">news:aq1bd1hju67=
4cl4s4hegq7j4j53g936jg2@4ax.com</A>...</DIV><BR>Yet=20
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.43 in=20
  Office XP.&nbsp; In Office 97, there was some intelligence<BR>and I =
could just=20
  enter 43, and it would know what I wanted.<BR><BR>I looked and looked =
for a=20
  config parm to change this "feature" back to<BR>the Office '97 way of =
doing=20
  things, but I can't find anything.<BR><BR><BR>&nbsp;/m<BR><BR><BR>On =
Tue, 12=20
  Jul 2005 16:59:29 -0400, Mike '/m' &lt;<A=20
  href=3D"mailto:mike@barkto.com">mike@barkto.com</A>&gt;=20
  wrote:<BR><BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;Office '97 here at home.&nbsp; Reluctantly, =
Office=20
  XP 2002 at work (the more<BR>&gt;I use it, the more I want to go back =
to=20
  Office '97).<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; /m<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;On Mon, 11 Jul 2005 =
19:29:18=20
  -0400, "Geo" &lt;<A =
href=3D"mailto:georger@nls.net">georger@nls.net</A>&gt;=20
  wrote:<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;Ok time for a =
survey.<BR>&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;I run=20
  Office 2000, what versions do the rest of you=20
  run?<BR>&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;Geo.<BR>&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;&nbsp; "Rich"=20
  &lt;@&gt; wrote in message <A=20
  =
href=3D"news:42d29689@w3.nls.net">news:42d29689@w3.nls.net</A>...<BR>&gt;=
&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
  If you truly expect 95% than I believe you are full of it and just =
making up=20
  junk to sound as if you know something.&nbsp; Use "some" if you mean=20
  some.<BR>&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;&nbsp;=20
  Rich<BR>&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; "Gary Britt" &lt;<A=20
  href=3D"mailto:zotu@nospamforme.com">zotu@nospamforme.com</A>&gt; =
wrote in=20
  message <A=20
  =
href=3D"news:42d292af$1@w3.nls.net">news:42d292af$1@w3.nls.net</A>...<BR>=
&gt;&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
  I never said it wasn't.&nbsp; What is it about the definition of the =
words=20
  "I<BR>&gt;&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Suspect" that seem to so trouble your =
reading=20
  comprehension.&nbsp; Quit being<BR>&gt;&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; such a =
touchy=20
  ass about this.&nbsp; Its not my fault nobody wants to=20
  upgrade<BR>&gt;&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; their MS Office=20
  software.<BR>&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Your employer =
needs to=20
  build a business model that doesn't rely upon=20
  full<BR>&gt;&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; cost monopoly priced upgrades of =
products=20
  every 9 months.&nbsp; That isn't my<BR>&gt;&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
fault=20
  either.&nbsp; Eventually, people say "wait a minute", again not my=20
  fault.<BR>&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; I guess Microsoft =
could get=20
  lots of office upgrades if they just =
make<BR>&gt;&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
  Longhorn incompatible with every version of MS Office except &lt;FILL =
IN=20
  NAME<BR>&gt;&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; OF VERSION=20
  HERE&gt;.<BR>&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
  Gary<BR>&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; "Rich" &lt;@&gt; wrote =
in=20
  message <A=20
  =
href=3D"news:42d28167@w3.nls.net">news:42d28167@w3.nls.net</A>...<BR>&gt;=
&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
  And I still think you have no clue.&nbsp; The 95% you keep claiming is =

  a<BR>&gt;&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; number you pulled out of thin=20
  air.<BR>&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
  Rich<BR>&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; "Gary =
Britt" &lt;<A=20
  href=3D"mailto:zotu@nospamforme.com">zotu@nospamforme.com</A>&gt; =
wrote in=20
  message<BR>&gt;&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <A=20
  =
href=3D"news:42d265b2$1@w3.nls.net">news:42d265b2$1@w3.nls.net</A>...<BR>=
&gt;&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
  You are right that my perspective does not extend outside the=20
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said there=20
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saying=20
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MOST=20
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office=20
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Office=20
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  Gary<BR>&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; "Rich" =
&lt;@&gt;=20
  wrote in message <A=20
  =
href=3D"news:42d1b1ad$1@w3.nls.net">news:42d1b1ad$1@w3.nls.net</A>...<BR>=
&gt;&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
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because=20
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Office<BR>&gt;&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
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languages=20
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brush=20
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  =
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bsp;=20
  I suspect you have no clue what the improvements are in the=20
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  releases<BR>&gt;&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; since the one you=20
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  Rich<BR>&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
"Gary=20
  Britt" &lt;<A =
href=3D"mailto:zotu@nospamforme.com">zotu@nospamforme.com</A>&gt;=20
  wrote in message<BR>&gt;&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <A=20
  =
href=3D"news:42d194f6$1@w3.nls.net">news:42d194f6$1@w3.nls.net</A>...<BR>=
&gt;&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
  The truth be told, Office for Win95 and Office 5.0 for Win3.1 was=20
  good<BR>&gt;&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; enough for =
95% of=20
  the =
market.<BR>&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=
=20
  I've stayed at the Office 2K level with no intention on the horizon=20
  of<BR>&gt;&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
  going<BR>&gt;&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
  =
higher.<BR>&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=
=20
  Gary<BR>&gt;&gt;<BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>

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