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Text 6043, 145 rader
Skriven 2005-07-14 21:19:08 av Geo (1:379/45)
   Kommentar till text 6035 av Rich (1:379/45)
Ärende: Re: eeye's irresponsible self-serving behavior
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From: "Geo" <georger@nls.net>

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the guys at eeye believe making exploits public knowledge lowers the = value
thus the cost that security companies can charge customers for = that
knowledge.

Geo.
  "Rich" <@> wrote in message news:42d6d8ee$1@w3.nls.net...
     No.  I consider this irresponsible.   For all we know folks at eeye =
do too but greed trumps responsibility.

  Rich

    "Geo" <georger@nls.net> wrote in message news:42d6befe@w3.nls.net...
    So you consider this responsible behavior?

    Geo.
      "Rich" <@> wrote in message news:42d6a0c1$1@w3.nls.net...
         Where do you get this taboo nonsense?  Look at =
http://www.eeye.com/html/research/advisories/AD20040615A.html and =
http://www.eeye.com/html/research/advisories/AD20040615B.html.  These = are
among the simplest but by far not the only.  eeye appears to try to = provide
instructions to exploit in all of these.  If you are going to be = in denial
about this behavior of theirs then no wonder you are in denial = about the
damage they cause.

      Rich

        "Geo" <georger@nls.net> wrote in message =
news:42d696e9$1@w3.nls.net...


        But instead he want's evidence that the exploits eeye has =
discovered over
        the past year or so are dangerous, and since exploit code is now =
taboo that
        becomes quite difficult to prove doesn't it?


        Geo.


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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>the guys at eeye believe making =
exploits public=20
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customers for that knowledge.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Geo.</FONT></DIV>
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  <DIV>"Rich" &lt;@&gt; wrote in message <A=20
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  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp; No.&nbsp; I consider =
this=20
  irresponsible.&nbsp;&nbsp; For all we know folks at eeye do too but =
greed=20
  trumps responsibility.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Rich</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
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    <DIV>"Geo" &lt;<A =
href=3D"mailto:georger@nls.net">georger@nls.net</A>&gt;=20
    wrote in message <A=20
    =
href=3D"news:42d6befe@w3.nls.net">news:42d6befe@w3.nls.net</A>...</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>So you consider this responsible=20
    behavior?</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Geo.</FONT></DIV>
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      <DIV>"Rich" &lt;@&gt; wrote in message <A=20
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      <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp; Where do you get =
this taboo=20
      nonsense?&nbsp; Look at <A=20
      =
href=3D"http://www.eeye.com/html/research/advisories/AD20040615A.html">ht=
tp://www.eeye.com/html/research/advisories/AD20040615A.html</A>=20
      and <A=20
      =
href=3D"http://www.eeye.com/html/research/advisories/AD20040615B.html">ht=
tp://www.eeye.com/html/research/advisories/AD20040615B.html</A>.&nbsp;=20
      These are among the simplest but by far not the only.&nbsp; eeye =
appears=20
      to try to provide instructions to exploit in all of these.&nbsp; =
If you=20
      are going to be in denial about this behavior of theirs then no =
wonder you=20
      are in denial about the damage they cause.</FONT></DIV>
      <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
      <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Rich</FONT></DIV>
      <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
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        <DIV>"Geo" &lt;<A =
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        =
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V><BR><BR>But=20
        instead he want's evidence that the exploits eeye has discovered =

        over<BR>the past year or so are dangerous, and since exploit =
code is now=20
        taboo that<BR>becomes quite difficult to prove doesn't=20
        =
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