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Text 6057, 136 rader
Skriven 2005-07-14 20:42:28 av Rich (1:379/45)
   Kommentar till text 6046 av Geo (1:379/45)
Ärende: Re: eeye's irresponsible self-serving behavior
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From: "Rich" <@>

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   Windows XP without SP2 is still trivial.  SP2 CDs are free and have =
been.  See =
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/downloads/updates/sp2/cdorder/en_us/de=
fault.mspx.

   I think from real people you will find that they do not consider =
receiving attacks from the ISP's controlled network acceptable, = particular
with a lame excuse such as the one you give that the network = is functioning
as intended when it allows them to be attacked.  Just = like they don't care
that your email servers deliver spam and viruses to = them because it is
functioning as intended.  Oh wait, you don't appear = to believe the latter
either so you are a hypocrite too.

Rich

  "Geo" <georger@nls.net> wrote in message news:42d713b8$1@w3.nls.net...
  "Rich" <@> wrote in message news:42d70946@w3.nls.net...
  >>   The thread I remember was mike miller and/or tony claiming that =
it was
  impossible to connect safely with Windows 2000 and both you and I =
responding
  that it is possible.  It's even easier with Windows XP.<<

  Yes I did say it's possible, easy is not the word I would use though. =
For
  XPsp2 (and the few people who have it) yes it is much easier because =
the
  firewall is on by default. For everyone else, the product is defective =
and
  MS should have to replace the CD on some sort of trade-in program.

  >>   Of course, it wouldn't be a bad idea for ISPs such as nls.net to
  protect their customers though given your stated position of it being =
good
  for machines to be infected that might explain why you might not do =
so. <<

  Why? It's not a function of the network that is defective, the network =
is
  function as designed and delivering the packets that are sent, the =
flaw
  allowing these worms is specific to windows as is the fix.

  Geo.


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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp; Windows XP without SP2 is =
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href=3D"http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/downloads/updates/sp2/cdorder/=
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp; I think from real people =
you will find=20
that they do not consider receiving attacks from the ISP's controlled =
network=20
acceptable, particular with a lame excuse such as the one you give that =
the=20
network is functioning as intended when it allows them to be =
attacked.&nbsp;=20
Just like they don't care that your email servers deliver spam and=20
viruses&nbsp;to them because it is functioning as intended.&nbsp; Oh = wait,
you=20
don't appear to believe the latter either so you are a hypocrite=20
too.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Rich</FONT></DIV>
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  <DIV>"Geo" &lt;<A =
href=3D"mailto:georger@nls.net">georger@nls.net</A>&gt; wrote=20
  in message <A=20
  =
href=3D"news:42d713b8$1@w3.nls.net">news:42d713b8$1@w3.nls.net</A>...</DI=
V>"Rich"=20
  &lt;@&gt; wrote in message <A=20
  =
href=3D"news:42d70946@w3.nls.net">news:42d70946@w3.nls.net</A>...<BR>&gt;=
&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
  The thread I remember was mike miller and/or tony claiming that it=20
  was<BR>impossible to connect safely with Windows 2000 and both you and =
I=20
  responding<BR>that it is possible.&nbsp; It's even easier with Windows =

  XP.&lt;&lt;<BR><BR>Yes I did say it's possible, easy is not the word I =
would=20
  use though. For<BR>XPsp2 (and the few people who have it) yes it is =
much=20
  easier because the<BR>firewall is on by default. For everyone else, =
the=20
  product is defective and<BR>MS should have to replace the CD on some =
sort of=20
  trade-in program.<BR><BR>&gt;&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp; Of course, it wouldn't =
be a bad=20
  idea for ISPs such as nls.net to<BR>protect their customers though =
given your=20
  stated position of it being good<BR>for machines to be infected that =
might=20
  explain why you might not do so. &lt;&lt;<BR><BR>Why? It's not a =
function of=20
  the network that is defective, the network is<BR>function as designed =
and=20
  delivering the packets that are sent, the flaw<BR>allowing these worms =
is=20
  specific to windows as is the=20
fix.<BR><BR>Geo.<BR><BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>

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