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Skriven 2005-07-15 16:33:28 av Geo (1:379/45)
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Ärende: Re: eeye's irresponsible self-serving behavior
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From: "Geo" <georger@nls.net>
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heh, who's confused?
Geo.
"Rich" <@> wrote in message news:42d73362@w3.nls.net...
You are confused. SO does not require someone to provide =
instructions on how to commit a crime as eeye does in provding = instructions
on how to malware.
Rich
. =20
"Randy" <dev@null.org> wrote in message news:42d72baa@w3.nls.net...
Why do you think Sarbanes-Oxley was passed?=20
"Geo" <georger@nls.net> wrote in message =
news:42d70ed8@w3.nls.net...
the guys at eeye believe making exploits public knowledge lowers =
the value thus the cost that security companies can charge customers for = that
knowledge.
Geo.
"Rich" <@> wrote in message news:42d6d8ee$1@w3.nls.net...
No. I consider this irresponsible. For all we know folks =
at eeye do too but greed trumps responsibility.
Rich
"Geo" <georger@nls.net> wrote in message =
news:42d6befe@w3.nls.net...
So you consider this responsible behavior?
Geo.
"Rich" <@> wrote in message news:42d6a0c1$1@w3.nls.net...
Where do you get this taboo nonsense? Look at =
http://www.eeye.com/html/research/advisories/AD20040615A.html and =
http://www.eeye.com/html/research/advisories/AD20040615B.html. These = are
among the simplest but by far not the only. eeye appears to try to = provide
instructions to exploit in all of these. If you are going to be = in denial
about this behavior of theirs then no wonder you are in denial = about the
damage they cause.
Rich
"Geo" <georger@nls.net> wrote in message =
news:42d696e9$1@w3.nls.net...
But instead he want's evidence that the exploits eeye has =
discovered over
the past year or so are dangerous, and since exploit code =
is now taboo that
becomes quite difficult to prove doesn't it?
Geo.
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>heh, who's confused?</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Geo.</FONT></DIV>
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SO does not=20
require someone to provide instructions on how to commit a crime as =
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in provding instructions on how to malware.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Rich</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>. </FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Why do you think Sarbanes-Oxley was passed? =
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>the guys at eeye believe making =
exploits=20
public knowledge lowers the value thus the cost that security =
companies=20
can charge customers for that knowledge.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Geo.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2> No. I =
consider this=20
irresponsible. For all we know folks at eeye do too =
but=20
greed trumps responsibility.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Rich</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>So you consider this =
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behavior?</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Geo.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV>"Rich" <@> wrote in message <A=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2> Where do you =
get this=20
taboo nonsense? Look at <A=20
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href=3D"http://www.eeye.com/html/research/advisories/AD20040615A.html">ht=
tp://www.eeye.com/html/research/advisories/AD20040615A.html</A>=20
and <A=20
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href=3D"http://www.eeye.com/html/research/advisories/AD20040615B.html">ht=
tp://www.eeye.com/html/research/advisories/AD20040615B.html</A>. =20
These are among the simplest but by far not the only. =
eeye=20
appears to try to provide instructions to exploit in all of=20
these. If you are going to be in denial about this =
behavior of=20
theirs then no wonder you are in denial about the damage =
they=20
cause.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Rich</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV>"Geo" <<A=20
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V><BR><BR>But=20
instead he want's evidence that the exploits eeye has =
discovered=20
over<BR>the past year or so are dangerous, and since =
exploit code=20
is now taboo that<BR>becomes quite difficult to prove =
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