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Ärende: Re: Say GoodBye To Firefox??
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Where do you get this bullshit? It was componentized with exposed =
with stable public APIs like other platform components so that ISVs and = other
Windows components can use the functionality. A great many do. = It was so
clearly a good idea that many years latter the mozilla folks = made an effort
to copy it.
Rich
"Gary Britt" <zotu@nospamforme.com> wrote in message =
news:42f5677c$1@w3.nls.net...
Yep, at the time MS thought they had to integrate it in order to skirt =
the
anti-trust laws and kill Netscape before they lost their advantage on =
the
internet and ultimately possibly control of the desktop PC. It was =
big
stakes to MS and little things like the good of their customers, the
product, or obeying the law just weren't important to MS.
Gary
"Robert Comer" <bobcomer@mindspring.com> wrote in message
news:42f53ef0@w3.nls.net...
> >I guess it took them one revision to get
> > it where it wasn't crashing everything.
>
> Exactly the problem, any major change carries that risk, but they =
put to
> much in the OS to fast.
>
> - Bob Comer
>
> "Gary Britt" <zotu@nospamforme.com> wrote in message
> news:42f532e1@w3.nls.net...
> > OK, I'll take yours and George's word for it. I never used it, I =
just
> > assumed it was similar to 5. 4 was the beginning of the =
integration of
IE
> > with operating system shell GUI. I guess it took them one =
revision to
> > get
> > it where it wasn't crashing everything.
> >
> > Gary
> >
> > "Robert Comer" <bobcomer@mindspring.com> wrote in message
> > news:42f5222c@w3.nls.net...
> >> IE4 was an abomination and nowhere near as well behaved as =
netscape4.
> >> IE5
> >> was where IE started to get decent.
> >>
> >> - Bob Comer
> >>
> >>
> >> "Gary Britt" <zotu@nospamforme.com> wrote in message
> >> news:42f50cf6$1@w3.nls.net...
> >> > Yes, in general IE 4 was as good as Netscape 4 to the average =
person.
> >> > I
> >> > was
> >> > on canopus back then, but really didn't get involved in using =
IE much
> >> > until
> >> > IE 5. Didn't 5 follow onto 4 rather quickly? I used Netscape =
3
until
> >> > moving finally to win95/98 from dos/win3.1. By the time I =
moved to
> >> > win95/98
> >> > IE 5 was out.
> >> >
> >> > Gary
> >> >
> >> > "Geo" <georger@nls.net> wrote in message
news:42f4c45d$1@w3.nls.net...
> >> >>
> >> >> "Gary Britt" <zotu@nospamforme.com> wrote in message
> >> >> news:42f475e9$1@w3.nls.net...
> >> >> > I agree Netscape went crappy, but not on the timing. =
Netscape was
> >> > better
> >> >> > than IE through versions 3. At version 4 level IE and =
Netscape
were
> >> > tied,
> >> >> > IMO.
> >> >>
> >> >> Did you just say that abomination IE4 was as good as Netscape =
at the
> >> >> time?
> >> >>
> >> >> Geo. (maybe you didn't know me then?)
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >
> >
>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2> Where do you get this =
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Rich</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV>"Gary Britt" <<A=20
href=3D"mailto:zotu@nospamforme.com">zotu@nospamforme.com</A>> =
wrote in=20
message <A=20
=
href=3D"news:42f5677c$1@w3.nls.net">news:42f5677c$1@w3.nls.net</A>...</DI=
V>Yep,=20
at the time MS thought they had to integrate it in order to skirt=20
the<BR>anti-trust laws and kill Netscape before they lost their =
advantage on=20
the<BR>internet and ultimately possibly control of the desktop =
PC. It=20
was big<BR>stakes to MS and little things like the good of their =
customers,=20
the<BR>product, or obeying the law just weren't important to=20
MS.<BR><BR>Gary<BR><BR>"Robert Comer" <<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:bobcomer@mindspring.com">bobcomer@mindspring.com</A>> = wrote
in=20
message<BR><A=20
=
href=3D"news:42f53ef0@w3.nls.net">news:42f53ef0@w3.nls.net</A>...<BR>>=
>I=20
guess it took them one revision to get<BR>> > it where it wasn't =
crashing everything.<BR>><BR>> Exactly the problem, any major =
change=20
carries that risk, but they put to<BR>> much in the OS to=20
fast.<BR>><BR>> - Bob Comer<BR>><BR>> "Gary Britt" <<A=20
href=3D"mailto:zotu@nospamforme.com">zotu@nospamforme.com</A>> =
wrote in=20
message<BR>> <A=20
=
href=3D"news:42f532e1@w3.nls.net">news:42f532e1@w3.nls.net</A>...<BR>>=
>=20
OK, I'll take yours and George's word for it. I never used it, I =
just<BR>> > assumed it was similar to 5. 4 was the =
beginning of=20
the integration of<BR>IE<BR>> > with operating system shell=20
GUI. I guess it took them one revision to<BR>> > =
get<BR>>=20
> it where it wasn't crashing everything.<BR>> ><BR>> > =
Gary<BR>> ><BR>> > "Robert Comer" <<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:bobcomer@mindspring.com">bobcomer@mindspring.com</A>> = wrote
in=20
message<BR>> > <A=20
=
href=3D"news:42f5222c@w3.nls.net">news:42f5222c@w3.nls.net</A>...<BR>>=
=20
>> IE4 was an abomination and nowhere near as well behaved as=20
netscape4.<BR>> >> IE5<BR>> >> was where IE started =
to get=20
decent.<BR>> >><BR>> >> - Bob Comer<BR>> =
>><BR>>=20
>><BR>> >> "Gary Britt" <<A=20
href=3D"mailto:zotu@nospamforme.com">zotu@nospamforme.com</A>> =
wrote in=20
message<BR>> >> <A=20
=
href=3D"news:42f50cf6$1@w3.nls.net">news:42f50cf6$1@w3.nls.net</A>...<BR>=
>=20
>> > Yes, in general IE 4 was as good as Netscape 4 to the =
average=20
person.<BR>> >> > I<BR>> >> > was<BR>> =
>>=20
> on canopus back then, but really didn't get involved in using IE=20
much<BR>> >> > until<BR>> >> > IE 5. =
Didn't 5=20
follow onto 4 rather quickly? I used Netscape 3<BR>until<BR>> =
>> > moving finally to win95/98 from dos/win3.1. By the =
time I=20
moved to<BR>> >> > win95/98<BR>> >> > IE 5 was =
out.<BR>> >> ><BR>> >> > Gary<BR>> >> =
><BR>> >> > "Geo" <<A=20
href=3D"mailto:georger@nls.net">georger@nls.net</A>> wrote in =
message<BR><A=20
=
href=3D"news:42f4c45d$1@w3.nls.net">news:42f4c45d$1@w3.nls.net</A>...<BR>=
>=20
>> >><BR>> >> >> "Gary Britt" <<A=20
href=3D"mailto:zotu@nospamforme.com">zotu@nospamforme.com</A>> =
wrote in=20
message<BR>> >> >> <A=20
=
href=3D"news:42f475e9$1@w3.nls.net">news:42f475e9$1@w3.nls.net</A>...<BR>=
>=20
>> >> > I agree Netscape went crappy, but not on the=20
timing. Netscape was<BR>> >> > better<BR>> =
>>=20
>> > than IE through versions 3. At version 4 level IE =
and=20
Netscape<BR>were<BR>> >> > tied,<BR>> >> >> =
>=20
IMO.<BR>> >> >><BR>> >> >> Did you just =
say that=20
abomination IE4 was as good as Netscape at the<BR>> >> =
>>=20
time?<BR>> >> >><BR>> >> >> Geo. (maybe =
you=20
didn't know me then?)<BR>> >> >><BR>> >>=20
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