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From: "Robert Comer" <bobcomer@mindspring.com>

> We'll never run out of oil, precisely because of those higher prices; as
> they get too high the alternatives come on board as affordable and reduce
> increased consumption of oil -- yes, "corn-power" is one of those, but a
> less than desirable one in my estimation.

Sorry, I want to be able to be mobile, and oil will most certainly become
uneconomical for that.

> Better to go for more nuclear, more solar, more new technology that has
> not been thought of (or wasn't feasible) yet...

Biodiesel's here now and it's more economical than any of those.  We need all
of these btw, but they don't translate well to cars. (we just don't have good
enough batteries either...)

- Bob Comer


"Mark" <nomail@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:42feb8df$1@w3.nls.net...
> Eh, I'm still not convinced that converting food to fuel is a worthwhile
> enterprise in the long run. No, I didn't mean that I wanted price controls
> on my ear of corn, I meant that it would be artificially higher in price
> because of unnatural competition via Hummer appetites (and I use "Hummer"
> only as an example of excess that I feel represents the thinking behind
> the plan to use food for fuel).
>
> We'll never run out of oil, precisely because of those higher prices; as
> they get too high the alternatives come on board as affordable and reduce
> increased consumption of oil -- yes, "corn-power" is one of those, but a
> less than desirable one in my estimation.
>
> Better to go for more nuclear, more solar, more new technology that has
> not been thought of (or wasn't feasible) yet...
>
>
> "Robert Comer" <bobcomer@mindspring.com> wrote in message
> news:42feae7c@w3.nls.net...
>>> So you're saying that $5 ears of corn are in my future;
>>
>> Actually, no, other crops would do, that's just one of the easy ones (and
>> not the easiest).  We have plenty of agriculture capability that's just
>> not used like it used to be.
>>
>>>all because the Hummer people want cheaper fuel for their hobbies and
>>>extravagances?
>>
>> So slap controls on the price, but I didn't think you believed in that.
>> ;-)
>>
>> Let the market decide is the right's mantra, but you're not doing that...
>>
>>>You do understand that they'll start breeding new strains of corn that
>>>will yield more fuel but be inedible, right?
>>
>> Yep, sounds good to me -- makes a lot of sense.
>>
>>><then they'll start making vacuum packs of soy products (unless soy is
>>>good for Hummers too) with food coloring to make the contents look like
>>>the former food we enjoyed that is now consigned to the tanks of our
>>>Hummers in the name of commuting to work to earn money to buy facsimiles
>>>of our former dinners>
>>
>> Soy *would* work for bio diesel, just not as efficient)
>>
>> I wouldn't be against banning hummers too btw.
>>
>>> I'm not really "that" worried about it, but there are both obvious and
>>> unforeseen consequences to using food for gas tanks vs. stomachs.
>>
>> It's better than higher and higher oil prices until we run out, and then
>> we're totally screwed if we haven't gone to something else. (not to
>> mention the middle east problems that we wouldn't have if we didn't need
>> the oil)
>>
>>
>> - Bob Comer
>>
>>
>> "Mark" <nomail@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:42feab76@w3.nls.net...
>>> So you're saying that $5 ears of corn are in my future; all because the
>>> Hummer people want cheaper fuel for their hobbies and extravagances? You
>>> do understand that they'll start breeding new strains of corn that will
>>> yield more fuel but be inedible, right? <then they'll start making
>>> vacuum packs of soy products (unless soy is good for Hummers too) with
>>> food coloring to make the contents look like the former food we enjoyed
>>> that is now consigned to the tanks of our Hummers in the name of
>>> commuting to work to earn money to buy facsimiles of our former dinners>
>>>
>>> I'm not really "that" worried about it, but there are both obvious and
>>> unforeseen consequences to using food for gas tanks vs. stomachs.
>>>
>>> "Robert Comer" <bobcomer@mindspring.com> wrote in message
>>> news:42fea628$1@w3.nls.net...
>>>>> When all the Hummer people start tooling around on "corn-power" how
>>>>> much is my favorite summer food going to cost me then?
>>>>
>>>> That's no different than oil, and you can do without corn if you needed
>>>> to.
>>>>
>>>> - Bob Comer
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Mark" <nomail@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:42fe8e3e@w3.nls.net...
>>>>> So this year the local farmstands are charging 45 cents an ear for
>>>>> corn (which seems real high to me, but I don't really remember what
>>>>> they charged last, and prior, years) so it's costing me $1.30 a day
>>>>> (not counting butter) for just that dinner course.
>>>>>
>>>>> When all the Hummer people start tooling around on "corn-power" how
>>>>> much is my favorite summer food going to cost me then?
>>>>>
>>>>> "Robert Comer" <bobcomer@mindspring.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:42fe8a9f@w3.nls.net...
>>>>>>I like it a lot, a truly renewable resource.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> - Bob Comer
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Mark" <nomail@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:42fe81f9$1@w3.nls.net...
>>>>>>> Yes, I know the (im)practicalities of it all, but I still don't like
>>>>>>> it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Robert Comer" <bobcomer@mindspring.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:42fe7e81$1@w3.nls.net...
>>>>>>>> <Now Bob will faint too> <g>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Not a chance, we have a LOT of corn field production capabilities
>>>>>>>> but can't sell the stuff on the foreign market so well, so it'd be
>>>>>>>> a double win. (rice is a better staple for the starving anyway)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> - Bob Comer
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "Mark" <nomail@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>> news:42fe7145$1@w3.nls.net...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> "Adam" <""4thwormcastfromthemolehill\"@the field.near the bridge">
>>>>>>>>> wrote in message news:42fe636a@w3.nls.net...
>>>>>>>>>> Geo wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> "Robert Comer" <bobcomer@mindspring.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>> news:42f82175$1@w3.nls.net...
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>It's part of the new energy law that Bush signed today -- it
>>>>>>>>>>>>goes into
>>>>>>>>>>>>effect next year and it adds another month of daylight savings
>>>>>>>>>>>>time...
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> What did he do, pray real hard and god changed the
>>>>>>>>>>> sunrise/sunset times?
>>>>>>>>>>> Cause without more daylight I fail to understand how this is
>>>>>>>>>>> going to
>>>>>>>>>>> conserve energy.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Geo.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Why is there so little in the bill which pushes bio-diesel?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> It's the best option given your cornfields etc.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I don't like that whole idea of using food for engines -- it just
>>>>>>>>> seems immoral to me, to drive around on "corn-power" with so many
>>>>>>>>> people starving in the world. <Now Bob will faint too> <g>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
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