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Skriven 2005-08-14 06:59:12 av Robert Comer (1:379/45)
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From: "Robert Comer" <bobcomer@mindspring.com>
Not soon enough unfortunately. :(
- Bob Comer
"Mark" <nomail@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:42febfa2@w3.nls.net...
>I know they don't translate well to cars, but they take pressure off the
>demand for fuels that do translate well to cars <just as using corn for
>fuel puts pressure on my cost of eating> <g>
>
> "Robert Comer" <bobcomer@mindspring.com> wrote in message
> news:42feba45$1@w3.nls.net...
>>> We'll never run out of oil, precisely because of those higher prices; as
>>> they get too high the alternatives come on board as affordable and
>>> reduce increased consumption of oil -- yes, "corn-power" is one of
>>> those, but a less than desirable one in my estimation.
>>
>> Sorry, I want to be able to be mobile, and oil will most certainly become
>> uneconomical for that.
>>
>>> Better to go for more nuclear, more solar, more new technology that has
>>> not been thought of (or wasn't feasible) yet...
>>
>> Biodiesel's here now and it's more economical than any of those. We need
>> all of these btw, but they don't translate well to cars. (we just don't
>> have good enough batteries either...)
>>
>> - Bob Comer
>>
>>
>> "Mark" <nomail@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:42feb8df$1@w3.nls.net...
>>> Eh, I'm still not convinced that converting food to fuel is a worthwhile
>>> enterprise in the long run. No, I didn't mean that I wanted price
>>> controls on my ear of corn, I meant that it would be artificially higher
>>> in price because of unnatural competition via Hummer appetites (and I
>>> use "Hummer" only as an example of excess that I feel represents the
>>> thinking behind the plan to use food for fuel).
>>>
>>> We'll never run out of oil, precisely because of those higher prices; as
>>> they get too high the alternatives come on board as affordable and
>>> reduce increased consumption of oil -- yes, "corn-power" is one of
>>> those, but a less than desirable one in my estimation.
>>>
>>> Better to go for more nuclear, more solar, more new technology that has
>>> not been thought of (or wasn't feasible) yet...
>>>
>>>
>>> "Robert Comer" <bobcomer@mindspring.com> wrote in message
>>> news:42feae7c@w3.nls.net...
>>>>> So you're saying that $5 ears of corn are in my future;
>>>>
>>>> Actually, no, other crops would do, that's just one of the easy ones
>>>> (and not the easiest). We have plenty of agriculture capability that's
>>>> just not used like it used to be.
>>>>
>>>>>all because the Hummer people want cheaper fuel for their hobbies and
>>>>>extravagances?
>>>>
>>>> So slap controls on the price, but I didn't think you believed in that.
>>>> ;-)
>>>>
>>>> Let the market decide is the right's mantra, but you're not doing
>>>> that...
>>>>
>>>>>You do understand that they'll start breeding new strains of corn that
>>>>>will yield more fuel but be inedible, right?
>>>>
>>>> Yep, sounds good to me -- makes a lot of sense.
>>>>
>>>>><then they'll start making vacuum packs of soy products (unless soy is
>>>>>good for Hummers too) with food coloring to make the contents look like
>>>>>the former food we enjoyed that is now consigned to the tanks of our
>>>>>Hummers in the name of commuting to work to earn money to buy
>>>>>facsimiles of our former dinners>
>>>>
>>>> Soy *would* work for bio diesel, just not as efficient)
>>>>
>>>> I wouldn't be against banning hummers too btw.
>>>>
>>>>> I'm not really "that" worried about it, but there are both obvious and
>>>>> unforeseen consequences to using food for gas tanks vs. stomachs.
>>>>
>>>> It's better than higher and higher oil prices until we run out, and
>>>> then we're totally screwed if we haven't gone to something else. (not
>>>> to mention the middle east problems that we wouldn't have if we didn't
>>>> need the oil)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> - Bob Comer
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Mark" <nomail@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:42feab76@w3.nls.net...
>>>>> So you're saying that $5 ears of corn are in my future; all because
>>>>> the Hummer people want cheaper fuel for their hobbies and
>>>>> extravagances? You do understand that they'll start breeding new
>>>>> strains of corn that will yield more fuel but be inedible, right?
>>>>> <then they'll start making vacuum packs of soy products (unless soy is
>>>>> good for Hummers too) with food coloring to make the contents look
>>>>> like the former food we enjoyed that is now consigned to the tanks of
>>>>> our Hummers in the name of commuting to work to earn money to buy
>>>>> facsimiles of our former dinners>
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm not really "that" worried about it, but there are both obvious and
>>>>> unforeseen consequences to using food for gas tanks vs. stomachs.
>>>>>
>>>>> "Robert Comer" <bobcomer@mindspring.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:42fea628$1@w3.nls.net...
>>>>>>> When all the Hummer people start tooling around on "corn-power" how
>>>>>>> much is my favorite summer food going to cost me then?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That's no different than oil, and you can do without corn if you
>>>>>> needed to.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> - Bob Comer
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Mark" <nomail@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:42fe8e3e@w3.nls.net...
>>>>>>> So this year the local farmstands are charging 45 cents an ear for
>>>>>>> corn (which seems real high to me, but I don't really remember what
>>>>>>> they charged last, and prior, years) so it's costing me $1.30 a day
>>>>>>> (not counting butter) for just that dinner course.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> When all the Hummer people start tooling around on "corn-power" how
>>>>>>> much is my favorite summer food going to cost me then?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Robert Comer" <bobcomer@mindspring.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:42fe8a9f@w3.nls.net...
>>>>>>>>I like it a lot, a truly renewable resource.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> - Bob Comer
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "Mark" <nomail@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>> news:42fe81f9$1@w3.nls.net...
>>>>>>>>> Yes, I know the (im)practicalities of it all, but I still don't
>>>>>>>>> like it.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> "Robert Comer" <bobcomer@mindspring.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>> news:42fe7e81$1@w3.nls.net...
>>>>>>>>>> <Now Bob will faint too> <g>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Not a chance, we have a LOT of corn field production capabilities
>>>>>>>>>> but can't sell the stuff on the foreign market so well, so it'd
>>>>>>>>>> be a double win. (rice is a better staple for the starving
>>>>>>>>>> anyway)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> - Bob Comer
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> "Mark" <nomail@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>> news:42fe7145$1@w3.nls.net...
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> "Adam" <""4thwormcastfromthemolehill\"@the field.near the
>>>>>>>>>>> bridge"> wrote in message news:42fe636a@w3.nls.net...
>>>>>>>>>>>> Geo wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Robert Comer" <bobcomer@mindspring.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:42f82175$1@w3.nls.net...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>It's part of the new energy law that Bush signed today -- it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>goes into
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>effect next year and it adds another month of daylight savings
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>time...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> What did he do, pray real hard and god changed the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> sunrise/sunset times?
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cause without more daylight I fail to understand how this is
>>>>>>>>>>>>> going to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> conserve energy.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Geo.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Why is there so little in the bill which pushes bio-diesel?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> It's the best option given your cornfields etc.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I don't like that whole idea of using food for engines -- it
>>>>>>>>>>> just seems immoral to me, to drive around on "corn-power" with
>>>>>>>>>>> so many people starving in the world. <Now Bob will faint too>
>>>>>>>>>>> <g>
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