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Skriven 2005-08-28 14:58:34 av Ellen K. (1:379/45)
   Kommentar till text 6806 av Gary Britt (1:379/45)
Ärende: Re: Microsoft likes SPAM
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From: Ellen K. <72322.1016@compuserve.com>

I bet he's sorry he asked now!!!

On Sun, 28 Aug 2005 14:54:35 -0400, "Gary Britt" <zotu@nospamforme.com> wrote
in message <43120854$1@w3.nls.net>:

>BTW, IP is intellectual property and not imaginary property, but I kind of
>like your "imaginary property".
>
>Anything that exists in the physical world is tangible property.  Tangible
>property is the object class and is a sub-part of the "All Property of any
>kind whatsoever class".  Tangible property object is further divided into 2
>sub-groups (not sure if these sub-groups are objects or methods <g>).
>Anyway the 2 sub-groups of the object class tangible property are "Real
>Property" and "Personal Property".  Personal property is a
>label/method/function that is defined as everything that isn't Real
>Property.  The All Property Object class includes Tangible Property and
>Intangible Property.  Personal Property is literally anything that isn't
>real property so personal property can be used to label things that are
>Tangible and other things that are Intangible, because anything that isn't
>real property is personal property of some kind.
>
>Real Property is LAND and anything permanently (more or less, but not a
>rigid scientific formulation) attached to the LAND.
>
>Dirt in a bucket is personal property.  Pour the dirt into a hole on your
>land and it becomes part of the real property that is your land.
>
>Diamond's in your hand are personal property.  Diamond's buried in the
>ground as part of their natural state are part of the real property that is
>the land.  Diamonds placed in a treasure box and buried in the ground may
>still be personal property.
>
>Oil in the ground, real property.  Pump it out into a barrel and it becomes
>personal property.  Houses, not on wheels, are considered permanently
>attached to the land so they are part of the land and land is real property
>by definition.  This is true even though its physically possible to jack up
>a house and move it to another location.  Trailers are personal property.
>Take the wheels off and cement a trailer to the land, if firmly attached
>enough, becomes part of the land and therefore becomes real property and a
>huge eyesore <g>.
>
>To go deeper into the functions and methods of the real property object
>class.  Real property is more than just the dirt.  Its really a bundle of
>rights that the owner of the real property has control over.  That bundle of
>rights includes, the mineral rights to the stuff in the ground under their
>land; the air rights over the land; The right to be present upon the land;
>The right to build something or place things upon the land;  The right to
>derive income from the use of the land; The right to lease, sell,
>sub-divide, etc. the land.  The right to exclude others from presence upon
>the land.  There are probably other rights.  These rights don't have to be
>dealt with only as a complete bundle.  You can transfer just some of these
>rights or some parts of some of these rights.  Leasing the land to a tenant
>only transfers the right to occupy the land to the exclusion of others.  You
>can sell just the mineral rights and keep the right to occupy the land to
>the exclusion of others.  You can transfer the land subject to use
>restrictions or for an undefined term of years, like the life of someone.
>That transfer can include but doesn't have to include the mineral rights or
>rights to income from the land.
>
>This bundle of rights that are part of the real property object class
>include "future interests".  Future interests are some portion or all of the
>bundle of rights that are part of the real property class.  Future interests
>don't exist now, but spring into existence upon the happening of some event
>or condition in the future.  A deed that says something like "I give to aunt
>Sally ranch x for the rest of her life, and then to my son Billy".   Aunt
>Sally has the right to occupy and use the land for the rest of her life.
>She could sell that right for money.  Once sally dies Billy is the owner of
>the land.  Billy has a future interest in the land.  He isn't the owner
>today, but he will become the owner when Sally dies.  If Sally never dies,
>Billy never becomes the owner.  Sally can't transfer or cut off Billy's
>future right to become the owner upon her death.  There are other kinds of
>future interests.
>
>Gary
>
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>
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>"Geo" <georger@nls.net> wrote in message news:4311f109$1@w3.nls.net...
>> How do the concepts of real vs tangible property differ in the legal
>world?
>> Is a diamond real or tangible property?
>>
>> Geo.
>>
>> "Gary Britt" <zotu@nospamforme.com> wrote in message
>> news:4311e73c$1@w3.nls.net...
>> > The correct term for what you describe is "Tangible" property as opposed
>> to
>> > intangible property.  All tangible property really exists in the world
>of
>> > real things, but not all tangible property is real property.  <g>
>> >
>> > Gary
>> >
>> > "Geo" <georger@nls.net> wrote in message news:4311bf08@w3.nls.net...
>> > > Only to a lawyer, to me Real Property is the opposite of Imaginary
>> > Property
>> > > (IP).
>> > >
>> > > Geo.
>> > >
>> > > "Ellen K." <72322.1016@compuserve.com> wrote in message
>> > > news:r7t2h1l7mltcoo7918i0kt3iu7d6mntd3h@4ax.com...
>> > > > "real property" means there is land involved.  If there is no land
>> > > > involved it is "personal property".
>> > > >
>> > > > On Wed, 24 Aug 2005 20:24:38 -0400, "Geo" <georger@nls.net> wrote in
>> > > > message <430d101c$2@w3.nls.net>:
>> > > >
>> > > > >Seems to me the computer sitting in my living room is real
>property.
>> > > > >
>> > > > >Geo.
>> > >
>> > >
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>

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