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Ärende: Re: File-sharing Republican blogger tackles Orrin 'hollywood' Hatch
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From: "Glenn Meadows" <gmeadow@comcast.net>

I get phishing messages on accounts I've NEVER used at eBay or PP.  I've only
got one active at both sites, and realize what's going on, so I just delete all
of them after forwarding them in full to spoof@<eitherdomain.com>

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Glenn M.
"Rich" <@> wrote in message news:4325a7b3@w3.nls.net...
   That is not weird.  That is typical.  If mike is honest that he only gets
them on an account specific to ebay his case would be the very weird one.

Rich

  "Ellen K." <72322.1016@compuserve.com> wrote in message
news:athai11iafqv0sc5h11n2gj0aggc35be3c@4ax.com...
  The weirdest thing is that I have a fake yahoo email that I have never
  used on eBay (actually I haven't been to eBay in about 6 years), and I
  have never been to PayPal at all, and I get all these phishing spams
  there for eBay and PayPal.

  On Sun, 11 Sep 2005 18:54:24 -0400, Mike '/m' <mike@barkto.com> wrote in
  message <7bd9i1pohv0qoe8a7pchpm9qa8tuu84k0a@4ax.com>:

  >
  >Oh yeah.  I get tons of phishing emails on the email account I use for
  >eBay.  They are quick to spot, a quick look at the email header gives
  >them away.
  >
  > /m
  >
  >On Sun, 11 Sep 2005 14:45:13 -0700, Ellen K. <72322.1016@compuserve.com>
  >wrote:
  >
  >>And PayPal and eBay are the two biggest phishing targets.
  >>
  >>On Sun, 11 Sep 2005 11:37:27 -0400, Mike '/m' <mike@barkto.com> wrote in
  >>message <1nj8i15dmecsdo7qal1u6iilt14sceopal@4ax.com>:
  >>
  >>>
  >>>I've got a PayPal account, but I refuse to allow PayPal to have direct
  >>>access to my checking account.  PayPal is good for that occasional eBay
  >>>purchase.
  >>>
  >>> /m
  >>>
  >>>On Sun, 11 Sep 2005 11:13:02 -0400, "Geo" <georger@nls.net> wrote:
  >>>
  >>>>why is it these people all assume you have a paypal account or even
want
  >>>>one?
  >>>>
  >>>>Geo.
  >>>>
  >>>>"Rich Gauszka" <gauszka@hotmail.com> wrote in message
  >>>>news:43242c3a@w3.nls.net...
  >>>>>
  >>>>> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2005/09/09/urquhart_file-share_hatch/
  >>>>>
  >>>>> Interview A US politician challenging the pro-Hollywood Utah Senator
Orrin
  >>>>> Hatch is supporting file-sharing as a means to promote business
innovation
  >>>>> and keep the internet free.
  >>>>>
  >>>>> Republican challenger Steve Urquhart is taking a pro-small business
and
  >>>>> creative commons stance against Hatch, arguing that hobbling
file-sharing
  >>>>> technology through government legislation, that is enforced through
the
  >>>>> courts, is bad for business. Urquhart is running for the GOP seat
against
  >>>>> Hatch in 2006.
  >>>>>
  >>>>> Urquhart has talked out against Hatch's proposed Induce Act, a bill
that
  >>>>> world make "the intentional inducement of copyright infringement" an
  >>>>> offense. He is also critical of the Digital Millennium Copyright Act
  >>>>(DCMA),
  >>>>> backed by Hatch - and others - and signed into law.
  >>>>>
  >>>>> Urquhart, whose campaign seeks donations from internet users, not
just
  >>>>those
  >>>>> living and voting in his native land of Utah, believes Hatch's
legislation
  >>>>> plays into the hands of big, corporate media interests and helps
stifle
  >>>>> small business.
  >>>>>
  >>>>> "Senator Hatch has shown that he doesn't understand the internet, or
at
  >>>>> least, he does not welcome the kind of democratizing tool it can
be,"
  >>>>> Urquhart told The Register.
  >>>>>
  >>>>> "File-sharing technology is value-neutral and it's amazing. The
technology
  >>>>> should be lauded. Like most good things, though, it can be used in
  >>>>> inappropriate ways. In those cases, the actions, not the technology
should
  >>>>> be discouraged," he said.
  >>>>>
  >>>>> Urquhart is sharply critical of both Hatch and the Induce Act, and
the
  >>>>> defense they use of protecting copyright. "I think the threat of
potential
  >>>>> copyright suits by Hollywood and the recording industry makes it
difficult
  >>>>> for new businesses to compete. Small businesses simply won't bother
to
  >>>>enter
  >>>>> the fray or will fold at the first threat of a suit - even when what
they
  >>>>> are doing is legal," Urquhart said.
  >>>>>
  >>>>> He noted big organizations like Disney have built massive franchises
by
  >>>>> taking prior art from the common culture and slapping on their own
  >>>>> copyright, thereby claiming ownership. "Walt Disney built an empire
by
  >>>>> taking public domain works like Cinderella and dressing them up with
his
  >>>>> imagination," Urquhart said.
  >>>>>
  >>>>> He believes the reason legislation like the Induce Act has become
possible
  >>>>> is a result of the lobbying power of entrenched business and what he
  >>>>called:
  >>>>> "The lack of appreciation for how fundamentally different the
economy and
  >>>>> business are today than they were when these [politicians] left real
life
  >>>>> and entered the beltway."
  >>>>>
  >>>>> "Politicians can best help . . . the internet community by staying
out of
  >>>>> the way. Politicians usually are a few steps behind society. When it
comes
  >>>>> to the internet, they are laps behind," Urquhart said.
  >>>>>
  >>>>> Urquhart is a keen blogger and is using his online campaign against
Hatch
  >>>>to
  >>>>> encourage techies to flex their muscle. The candidate said he'd
attracted
  >>>>> "significant" support from internet users and "many" tech backers in
his
  >>>>> efforts to raise between $750,000 and $1m to fund the 2006 campaign
  >>>>against
  >>>>> Hatch.
  >>>>>
  >>>>> He claims internet users supporting him share a common chord of
wanting a
  >>>>> senator who understands the internet, and its role in the economy,
and who
  >>>>> is willing to fight to protect the part it plays.
  >>>>>
  >>>>> Voting out the incumbent will also send the message to lawmakers in
the US
  >>>>> Congress about the value of file sharing and how the Induce Act, and
  >>>>similar
  >>>>> works like the defunct Consumer Broadband and Digital Television
Promotion
  >>>>> Act sponsored by Senator Fritz Hollings - a.k.a "the Senator from
  >>>>Disney" -
  >>>>> are ill conceived.
  >>>>>
  >>>>> "I'm confident that if the technical community were to help turn out
  >>>>Senator
  >>>>> Hatch, 534 other people in Washington would pay closer attention to
  >>>>> technology in the future," Urquhart said.R
  >>>>>
  >>>>>
  >>>>

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