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Skriven 2005-09-12 19:24:16 av Rich (1:379/45)
   Kommentar till text 7146 av Rich Gauszka (1:379/45)
Ärende: Re: Seven versions of Vista?
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From: "Rich" <@>

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   Unwanted by consumers and OEMs.

   Windows Vista home networking is an advance over Windows XP's.  How =
much this helps you I can't tell.

   Maybe your experience is different than mine.  The issues I have seen =
with home networking are due to the conflict between security and ease = of
use.  Do you have the firewall block file sharing or not?  By default = it is
blocked.  Do you want to allow remote access to your system using = local
accounts meaning that if someone guesses your password then can = access what
you can?  By default remote access using a local account = gets the same access
as a guest.  This leads to the next question.  Do = you want to allow guest
access?  By default it is not.  What this boils = down to is that the
configuration is secure by default and some people = really don't want that. 
I'm sure some people that complain fail to see = the irony.

   I had no problems with any of those issues for myself or the people I =
helped.  The one that frustrates me is that name resolution uses DNS = and/or
NetBIOS.  I prefer to disable NetBIOS and do not want a home DNS = server. 
What I want is LLMNR.

Rich

  "Rich Gauszka" <gauszka@hotmail.com> wrote in message =
news:4325ab1e$1@w3.nls.net...
  Unwanted?  By Europe or Microsoft.

  Seriously Starter, Home Basic, Home Premium, Professional Edition  =
seem a bit much. With the increase in home networking MS should target = home
users with a release of Vista that makes networking less painless = than XP
Home.=20


    "Rich" <@> wrote in message news:4325a774$1@w3.nls.net...
       There are five versions of Windows XP not counting the unwanted =
European only versions.

    Rich

      "Rich Gauszka" <gauszka@hotmail.com> wrote in message =
news:4324fe64$1@w3.nls.net...

      =
http://www.webpronews.com/news/ebusinessnews/wpn-45-20050911SevenVersions=
forVista.html

      Bill, you have got to be kidding us all. The always-excellent =
Signal vs.=20
      Noise blog says that Microsoft has seven versions planned for its =
next=20
      Windows release, Vista (the OS formerly known as Longhorn)...

      * Windows Vista Starter Edition
      * Windows Vista Home Basic Edition
      * Windows Vista Home Premium Edition
      * Windows Vista Professional Edition
      * Windows Vista Small Business Edition
      * Windows Vista Enterprise Edition
      * Windows Vista Ultimate Edition

      If this is indeed the final product lineup, I think MS is due for =
big=20
      trouble. People have a hard enough time deciding if they need XP =
Home or XP=20
      Professional as it is! And even power users won't know what the =
hell ot=20
      choose.

      But we are talking about the same company that actually runs ad =
campaigns=20
      calling their customers dinosaurs for using outdated versions of =
Office.

      link=20
      =
http://37signals.com/svn/archives2/windows_vista_home_premium_edition.php=
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp; Unwanted by consumers and=20
OEMs.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp; Windows Vista home =
networking=20
is&nbsp;an advance over Windows XP's.&nbsp; How much this helps = you&nbsp;I
can't=20
tell.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp; Maybe your experience is =
different=20
than mine.&nbsp; The issues I have seen with home networking are due to =
the=20
conflict between security and ease of use.&nbsp; Do you have the = firewall
block=20
file sharing or not?&nbsp; By default it is blocked.&nbsp; Do you want = to
allow=20
remote access to your system using local accounts meaning that if = someone=20
guesses your password then can access what you can?&nbsp; By default =
remote=20
access using a local account gets the same access as a guest.&nbsp; This =
leads=20
to the next question.&nbsp; Do you want to allow guest access?&nbsp; By =
default=20
it is not.&nbsp; What this boils down to is that the configuration is = secure
by=20
default and some people really don't want that.&nbsp; I'm sure some = people
that=20
complain fail to see the irony.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp; I had no problems with any =
of those=20
issues for myself or the people I helped.&nbsp; The one that frustrates = me
is=20
that name resolution uses DNS and/or NetBIOS.&nbsp; I prefer to disable =
NetBIOS=20
and do not want a home DNS server.&nbsp; What I want is = LLMNR.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Rich</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
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BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
  <DIV>"Rich Gauszka" &lt;<A=20
  href=3D"mailto:gauszka@hotmail.com">gauszka@hotmail.com</A>&gt; wrote =
in message=20
  <A =
href=3D"news:4325ab1e$1@w3.nls.net">news:4325ab1e$1@w3.nls.net</A>...</DI=
V>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D2>Unwanted?&nbsp; By Europe or =
Microsoft.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D2>Seriously Starter, Home Basic, Home Premium, =
Professional=20
  Edition&nbsp; seem a bit much. With the increase in&nbsp;home =
networking MS=20
  should target&nbsp;home users with a release of Vista that makes =
networking=20
  less painless than XP Home. </FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
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BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
    <DIV>"Rich" &lt;@&gt; wrote in message <A=20
    =
href=3D"news:4325a774$1@w3.nls.net">news:4325a774$1@w3.nls.net</A>...</DI=
V>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp; There are five =
versions of Windows=20
    XP not counting the unwanted European only versions.</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Rich</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
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      <DIV>"Rich Gauszka" &lt;<A=20
      href=3D"mailto:gauszka@hotmail.com">gauszka@hotmail.com</A>&gt; =
wrote in=20
      message <A=20
      =
href=3D"news:4324fe64$1@w3.nls.net">news:4324fe64$1@w3.nls.net</A>...</DI=
V><BR><A=20
      =
href=3D"http://www.webpronews.com/news/ebusinessnews/wpn-45-20050911Seven=
VersionsforVista.html">http://www.webpronews.com/news/ebusinessnews/wpn-4=
5-20050911SevenVersionsforVista.html</A><BR><BR>Bill,=20
      you have got to be kidding us all. The always-excellent Signal vs. =

      <BR>Noise blog says that Microsoft has seven versions planned for =
its next=20
      <BR>Windows release, Vista (the OS formerly known as =
Longhorn)...<BR><BR>*=20
      Windows Vista Starter Edition<BR>* Windows Vista Home Basic =
Edition<BR>*=20
      Windows Vista Home Premium Edition<BR>* Windows Vista Professional =

      Edition<BR>* Windows Vista Small Business Edition<BR>* Windows =
Vista=20
      Enterprise Edition<BR>* Windows Vista Ultimate Edition<BR><BR>If =
this is=20
      indeed the final product lineup, I think MS is due for big =
<BR>trouble.=20
      People have a hard enough time deciding if they need XP Home or XP =

      <BR>Professional as it is! And even power users won't know what =
the hell=20
      ot <BR>choose.<BR><BR>But we are talking about the same company =
that=20
      actually runs ad campaigns <BR>calling their customers dinosaurs =
for using=20
      outdated versions of Office.<BR><BR>link <BR><A=20
      =
href=3D"http://37signals.com/svn/archives2/windows_vista_home_premium_edi=
tion.php">http://37signals.com/svn/archives2/windows_vista_home_premium_e=
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