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Ärende: Re: File-sharing Republican blogger tackles Orrin 'hollywood' Hatch
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From: Ellen K. <72322.1016@compuserve.com>

Talk about people unclear on the concept...  !!!

On Mon, 12 Sep 2005 22:02:52 -0400, "Geo" <georger@nls.net> wrote in message
<43263396@w3.nls.net>:

>I get them on my abuse@ email addresses.
>
>Geo. (talk about stupid)
>  "Rich" <@> wrote in message news:4325a7b3@w3.nls.net...
>     That is not weird.  That is typical.  If mike is honest that he only gets
them on an account specific to ebay his case would be the very weird one.
>
>  Rich
>
>    "Ellen K." <72322.1016@compuserve.com> wrote in message
news:athai11iafqv0sc5h11n2gj0aggc35be3c@4ax.com...
>    The weirdest thing is that I have a fake yahoo email that I have never
>    used on eBay (actually I haven't been to eBay in about 6 years), and I
>    have never been to PayPal at all, and I get all these phishing spams
>    there for eBay and PayPal.
>
>    On Sun, 11 Sep 2005 18:54:24 -0400, Mike '/m' <mike@barkto.com> wrote in
>    message <7bd9i1pohv0qoe8a7pchpm9qa8tuu84k0a@4ax.com>:
>
>    >
>    >Oh yeah.  I get tons of phishing emails on the email account I use for
>    >eBay.  They are quick to spot, a quick look at the email header gives
>    >them away.
>    >
>    > /m
>    >
>    >On Sun, 11 Sep 2005 14:45:13 -0700, Ellen K. <72322.1016@compuserve.com>
>    >wrote:
>    >
>    >>And PayPal and eBay are the two biggest phishing targets.
>    >>
>    >>On Sun, 11 Sep 2005 11:37:27 -0400, Mike '/m' <mike@barkto.com> wrote in
>    >>message <1nj8i15dmecsdo7qal1u6iilt14sceopal@4ax.com>:
>    >>
>    >>>
>    >>>I've got a PayPal account, but I refuse to allow PayPal to have direct
>    >>>access to my checking account.  PayPal is good for that occasional eBay
>    >>>purchase.
>    >>>
>    >>> /m
>    >>>
>    >>>On Sun, 11 Sep 2005 11:13:02 -0400, "Geo" <georger@nls.net> wrote:
>    >>>
>    >>>>why is it these people all assume you have a paypal account or even
want
>    >>>>one?
>    >>>>
>    >>>>Geo.
>    >>>>
>    >>>>"Rich Gauszka" <gauszka@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>    >>>>news:43242c3a@w3.nls.net...
>    >>>>>
>    >>>>> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2005/09/09/urquhart_file-share_hatch/
>    >>>>>
>    >>>>> Interview A US politician challenging the pro-Hollywood Utah Senator
Orrin
>    >>>>> Hatch is supporting file-sharing as a means to promote business
innovation
>    >>>>> and keep the internet free.
>    >>>>>
>    >>>>> Republican challenger Steve Urquhart is taking a pro-small business
and
>    >>>>> creative commons stance against Hatch, arguing that hobbling
file-sharing
>    >>>>> technology through government legislation, that is enforced through
the
>    >>>>> courts, is bad for business. Urquhart is running for the GOP seat
against
>    >>>>> Hatch in 2006.
>    >>>>>
>    >>>>> Urquhart has talked out against Hatch's proposed Induce Act, a bill
that
>    >>>>> world make "the intentional inducement of copyright infringement" an
>    >>>>> offense. He is also critical of the Digital Millennium Copyright Act
>    >>>>(DCMA),
>    >>>>> backed by Hatch - and others - and signed into law.
>    >>>>>
>    >>>>> Urquhart, whose campaign seeks donations from internet users, not
just
>    >>>>those
>    >>>>> living and voting in his native land of Utah, believes Hatch's
legislation
>    >>>>> plays into the hands of big, corporate media interests and helps
stifle
>    >>>>> small business.
>    >>>>>
>    >>>>> "Senator Hatch has shown that he doesn't understand the internet, or
at
>    >>>>> least, he does not welcome the kind of democratizing tool it can
be,"
>    >>>>> Urquhart told The Register.
>    >>>>>
>    >>>>> "File-sharing technology is value-neutral and it's amazing. The
technology
>    >>>>> should be lauded. Like most good things, though, it can be used in
>    >>>>> inappropriate ways. In those cases, the actions, not the technology
should
>    >>>>> be discouraged," he said.
>    >>>>>
>    >>>>> Urquhart is sharply critical of both Hatch and the Induce Act, and
the
>    >>>>> defense they use of protecting copyright. "I think the threat of
potential
>    >>>>> copyright suits by Hollywood and the recording industry makes it
difficult
>    >>>>> for new businesses to compete. Small businesses simply won't bother
to
>    >>>>enter
>    >>>>> the fray or will fold at the first threat of a suit - even when what
they
>    >>>>> are doing is legal," Urquhart said.
>    >>>>>
>    >>>>> He noted big organizations like Disney have built massive franchises
by
>    >>>>> taking prior art from the common culture and slapping on their own
>    >>>>> copyright, thereby claiming ownership. "Walt Disney built an empire
by
>    >>>>> taking public domain works like Cinderella and dressing them up with
his
>    >>>>> imagination," Urquhart said.
>    >>>>>
>    >>>>> He believes the reason legislation like the Induce Act has become
possible
>    >>>>> is a result of the lobbying power of entrenched business and what he
>    >>>>called:
>    >>>>> "The lack of appreciation for how fundamentally different the
economy and
>    >>>>> business are today than they were when these [politicians] left real
life
>    >>>>> and entered the beltway."
>    >>>>>
>    >>>>> "Politicians can best help . . . the internet community by staying
out of
>    >>>>> the way. Politicians usually are a few steps behind society. When it
comes
>    >>>>> to the internet, they are laps behind," Urquhart said.
>    >>>>>
>    >>>>> Urquhart is a keen blogger and is using his online campaign against
Hatch
>    >>>>to
>    >>>>> encourage techies to flex their muscle. The candidate said he'd
attracted
>    >>>>> "significant" support from internet users and "many" tech backers in
his
>    >>>>> efforts to raise between $750,000 and $1m to fund the 2006 campaign
>    >>>>against
>    >>>>> Hatch.
>    >>>>>
>    >>>>> He claims internet users supporting him share a common chord of
wanting a
>    >>>>> senator who understands the internet, and its role in the economy,
and who
>    >>>>> is willing to fight to protect the part it plays.
>    >>>>>
>    >>>>> Voting out the incumbent will also send the message to lawmakers in
the US
>    >>>>> Congress about the value of file sharing and how the Induce Act, and
>    >>>>similar
>    >>>>> works like the defunct Consumer Broadband and Digital Television
Promotion
>    >>>>> Act sponsored by Senator Fritz Hollings - a.k.a "the Senator from
>    >>>>Disney" -
>    >>>>> are ill conceived.
>    >>>>>
>    >>>>> "I'm confident that if the technical community were to help turn out
>    >>>>Senator
>    >>>>> Hatch, 534 other people in Washington would pay closer attention to
>    >>>>> technology in the future," Urquhart said.R
>    >>>>>
>    >>>>>
>    >>>>

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