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Text 7223, 105 rader
Skriven 2005-09-18 20:45:50 av Mike '/m' (1:379/45)
   Kommentar till text 7221 av Ellen K. (1:379/45)
Ärende: Re: The enterprise desktop PC is obsolete: what you should do about it
==============================================================================
From: Mike '/m' <mike@barkto.com>



Where I work, when started out with a web-based front-end because we were able
to get it running very quickly.  The app really just needed the ability to fill
in a form.

As the product grew, we needed to add the functionality of geography selects,
i.e., select which counties in the US you want to work with, etc.

We've converted the app to Java Swing and now cache the geography choices on
the workstation.    Contrary to what those say who spend
their entire workday resizing windows, the Java app runs quite quickly. We
could have not done a similar thing with a web-based app.

  /m


On Sun, 18 Sep 2005 17:19:43 -0700, Ellen K. <72322.1016@compuserve.com> wrote:

>The consultants who are supposed to be doing our new enterprise system
>are doing it web-based and I predict a full-scale user revolt when they
>see the UI.  Can you imagine having to select a product from a list of
>3000 where you can't type the first letter of the product code to at
>least get to that section of the list?
>
>On Thu, 15 Sep 2005 21:13:16 -0400, Mike '/m' <mike@barkto.com> wrote in
>message <iq6ki1htsqgvbp0qq14q374ol8ec43j7gc@4ax.com>:
>
>>
>>http://desktoplinux.com/articles/AT4595926308.html
>>
>>===
>>The enterprise desktop PC is a dying entity.
>>
>>Microsoft's method of licensing and dominating PCs -- and thus the
>>enterprise desktop -- began over 20 years ago. Microsoft entered
>>enterprises inside the Trojan Horse of the PC, which offered individual
>>users the ability to operate their own applications and control their
>>own data. Compared to the days when mainframes and minicomputers
>>dominated, the ability of the PC to give users local control gave uses a
>>profound sense of freedom.
>>
>>There has been much debate and discussion regarding the Linux desktop
>>and Microsoft's hold on the market. Yet in all the debate, few have
>>expressed the reality that is slowly permeating businesses and
>>organizations on a global scale. Brian Profitt, LinuxToday managing
>>editor, may have said it best in his observation that the definition of
>>"desktop" is constantly changing, and perhaps the word itself is a
>>misnomer.
>>
>>Evolution of the desktop
>>
>>The desktop, as it applies to independent PCs running applications, was
>>once something enriching, something positive for the user. Over the
>>years, the power we had as desktop users has substantially declined. I'm
>>not referring to the GUIs mind you, I'm talking about the overall OS
>>experience. As the years passed and more and more complexity entered the
>>desktop environment, businesses found an ever increasing burden of
>>managing those independent desktops.
>>
>>The once-mighty PC is now seen as a threat, vulnerable to trojans and
>>viruses that spread to other PCs across the network. The dominance of
>>software licensing schemes further exacerbates the emerging perception
>>that a business desktop PC is dangerous and burdensome.
>>
>>Today, we lock down these PCs, control them through a central IT group,
>>and call them "managed desktops." Ironically, and almost laughably, the
>>personal computer in business is rapidly becoming nothing more than a
>>repository of applications that are subject to complicated licensing
>>schemes and controlled by a central server.
>>
>>And on top of this reality, in almost every business environment, all of
>>the actual data resides on the network file systems. Much of the work
>>done day to day comes from NT servers, or off of Exchange servers. The
>>desktop PC does little more than drive applications and cost money.
>>
>>At the same time that the wonderful freeing power of a personal computer
>>ended, another paradigm shift began: taking all aspects of the system
>>into account, the cost of the hardware fell below that of the software.
>>
>>In short, I can now purchase a powerful new desktop PC for far less than
>>the price of the Windows OS and application software that would be
>>needed to run it. In this new paradigm we have a profound irony. The
>>desktop is now an inhibitor and hurdle in the business environment.
>>
>>Having hundreds of individual PCs running applications that must be
>>controlled and managed has thus returned us to an situation (in the
>>enterprise) in which computers are costly, and few people are able to be
>>in full control of their systems....
>>===
>>
>>
>>Funny, I was talking with an IT person just a few days ago about moving
>>a lot of the PC functionality back into the computer room.  The topic of
>>discussion was, just how much electronics do you really need to remain
>>on a desktop?  I said mouse, keyboard, speakers, monitor, IP-capable
>>KVM.
>>
>>
>>  /m

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