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Ärende: Re: Windows Vista video enhancements
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From: "Rich" <@>
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You must not remember that you have complained to me about this many =
times over the years often together with silly suggestions over how you = would
optimize it. You have probably forgotten that icon extraction, = which is not
specific to EXEs, was sensitive to link speed.
I'm sure you will have more reason to complain since in Windows Vista =
there will be more use of thumbnails. Today you get thumbnails for an = image
file but not a document. In Windows Vista you should see = thumbnails for the
document too. From = http://www.microsoft.com/windowsvista/experience.mspx
Thumbnails=20
New scalable thumbnails are used throughout Windows to show you the =
actual first page for documents, the actual photo for photos, a screen =
capture for videos, and album art for individual songs. By previewing = the
actual contents of a file at a glance, you'll find what you want = more quickly
without the trial-and-error of opening files to preview = them.=20
You'll find thumbnails in the Explorers as live icons; when you rest =
the mouse pointer over a minimized window on the Task Bar; and when you = flip
through open windows using the features codenamed "Flip" and "Flip = 3D".
Rich
"Geo" <georger@nls.net> wrote in message news:43740176@w3.nls.net...
"Rich" <@> wrote in message news:4372d15b@w3.nls.net...
>> Simple transparancy and alpha blending are available in Windows =
98 and
maybe Windows 95 and improved further in Windows 2000. You can see
screenshots of a translucent calculator at
http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/en-us/dnwui/html/layerwin.asp. LDDM =
is
more than that.<<
Yes and it is so typical of the win9x team to go overboard like that. =
Let me
tell you a little story.
Back when the newshell was being done, one of the things that users =
asked
for was better icons. They wanted to see a word doc look different =
from a
notepad text file (remember the days of program manager/file =
manager?).
Anyway the guys doing the newshell for win9x went overboard, instead =
of
standard icons based on file extensions they had to allow different =
icons
for every .exe file, you know, so notepad.exe could be a notepad and
calc.exe could be a calculator.
The result was that when you attach to a remote drive and open a =
directory,
windows has to touch each and every stupid file to retreive the icon =
data if
available. When newshell came out we called this effect iconitis =
because
when done over a modem it was painfully slow. Course the guys who =
wrote and
tested it never noticed because they were all working on the newest =
and
fastest machines and networks so what would they care?
How much do you want to bet the same guys worked on Glass? Well at =
least
it's not something that can't be turned off, guess they did learn
something..
And there's more, in 1997 when I was at MS trying to give them some =
ideas, I
described a 3D GUI where not only could you stack icons vertically and
horizontally but I described how I wanted to stack them going back =
into the
screen (perspective) so you could have a stack of rows that looked =
like a
file cabinet drawers with just the tabs visible. Functional, more =
icons in
less space type of stuff. Instead we get glass which requires more =
video cpu
than is available on systems 8 years later and that stupid XP view =
where
only 20 icons fit on a full screen open folder?
Geo. (it's not very functional but it looks sooooooo cool... where is =
my
2x4..)
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2> You must not remember that =
you have=20
complained to me about this many times over the years often together = with
silly=20
suggestions over how you would optimize it. You have probably =
forgotten=20
that icon extraction, which is not specific to EXEs, was sensitive to = link=20
speed.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2> I'm sure you will have =
more reason to=20
complain since in Windows Vista there will be more use of =
thumbnails. =20
Today you get thumbnails for an image file but not a document. In =
Windows=20
Vista you should see thumbnails for the document too. From <A=20
href=3D"http://www.microsoft.com/windowsvista/experience.mspx">http://www=
.microsoft.com/windowsvista/experience.mspx</A></FONT></DIV>
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<P><FONT color=3D#008000>New scalable thumbnails are used throughout =
Windows to=20
show you the actual first page for documents, the actual photo for =
photos, a=20
screen capture for videos, and album art for individual songs. By =
previewing=20
the actual contents of a file at a glance, you'll find what you want =
more=20
quickly without the trial-and-error of opening files to preview them.=20
</FONT></P>
<P><FONT color=3D#008000>You'll find thumbnails in the Explorers as =
live icons;=20
when you rest the mouse pointer over a minimized window on the Task =
Bar; and=20
when you flip through open windows using the features codenamed "Flip" =
and=20
"Flip 3D".</FONT></P></FONT></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Rich</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV>"Geo" <<A =
href=3D"mailto:georger@nls.net">georger@nls.net</A>> wrote=20
in message <A=20
=
href=3D"news:43740176@w3.nls.net">news:43740176@w3.nls.net</A>...</DIV>"R=
ich"=20
<@> wrote in message <A=20
=
href=3D"news:4372d15b@w3.nls.net">news:4372d15b@w3.nls.net</A>...<BR><BR>=
>> =20
Simple transparancy and alpha blending are available in Windows 98=20
and<BR>maybe Windows 95 and improved further in Windows 2000. =
You can=20
see<BR>screenshots of a translucent calculator at<BR><A=20
=
href=3D"http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/en-us/dnwui/html/layerwin.asp">=
http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/en-us/dnwui/html/layerwin.asp</A>. =
;=20
LDDM is<BR>more than that.<<<BR><BR>Yes and it is so typical of =
the=20
win9x team to go overboard like that. Let me<BR>tell you a little=20
story.<BR><BR>Back when the newshell was being done, one of the things =
that=20
users asked<BR>for was better icons. They wanted to see a word doc =
look=20
different from a<BR>notepad text file (remember the days of program=20
manager/file manager?).<BR>Anyway the guys doing the newshell for =
win9x went=20
overboard, instead of<BR>standard icons based on file extensions they =
had to=20
allow different icons<BR>for every .exe file, you know, so notepad.exe =
could=20
be a notepad and<BR>calc.exe could be a calculator.<BR><BR>The result =
was that=20
when you attach to a remote drive and open a directory,<BR>windows has =
to=20
touch each and every stupid file to retreive the icon data =
if<BR>available.=20
When newshell came out we called this effect iconitis because<BR>when =
done=20
over a modem it was painfully slow. Course the guys who wrote =
and<BR>tested it=20
never noticed because they were all working on the newest =
and<BR>fastest=20
machines and networks so what would they care?<BR><BR>How much do you =
want to=20
bet the same guys worked on Glass? Well at least<BR>it's not something =
that=20
can't be turned off, guess they did learn<BR>something..<BR><BR>And =
there's=20
more, in 1997 when I was at MS trying to give them some ideas, =
I<BR>described=20
a 3D GUI where not only could you stack icons vertically =
and<BR>horizontally=20
but I described how I wanted to stack them going back into =
the<BR>screen=20
(perspective) so you could have a stack of rows that looked like =
a<BR>file=20
cabinet drawers with just the tabs visible. Functional, more icons =
in<BR>less=20
space type of stuff. Instead we get glass which requires more video=20
cpu<BR>than is available on systems 8 years later and that stupid XP =
view=20
where<BR>only 20 icons fit on a full screen open folder?<BR><BR>Geo. =
(it's not=20
very functional but it looks sooooooo cool... where is=20
my<BR>2x4..)<BR><BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>
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