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From: "Rich" <@>
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Sure you did. You tried to justify your copying software licensed =
for use on your wife's computer to one of your computers. One = justification
you attempted is that best buy offered to sell you what = you want at a price
higher than you wanted to pay, not that you offered = to pay anything at all.
Another is that you tried you claim that this = would be "fair use". That is
quite a stretch. Another justification = you have attempted is to disparage
the company from whom you are = stealing possible in an attempt to excuse
instead of justify. That you = have a lack of ethics may or may not be a topic
of interest to the bar. = That you are so miserable at defending your position
and repeatedly fall = back on threats and insults is something you might want
to consider.
Rich
"Gary Britt" <email@from_Gary_Britt.org> wrote in message =
news:43854257@w3.nls.net...
I never attempt to justify breaking the law Rich, nor have I done so =
in this
case. I leave the law breaking and justifications therefore to you =
and your
employer Microsoft, or does Microsoft your employer and you no longer =
seek
to justify breaking the anti-trust laws and RICO civil and criminal
conspiracy statutes for more than a decade. Your employer steals =
BILLIONS
through its monopolistic practices and violations of anti-trust laws, =
and
its no wonder that a person of such low character and moral fiber as
yourself fits right in at the Redmond campus.
Before worrying about the spec of dust in my eye, worry about the =
lumbar
yard in yours.
Gary
"Rich" <@> wrote in message news:438527d2@w3.nls.net...
It could be called fair use. It could be called hang gliding. Do =
you
typically attempt to justify breaking the law by making up names?
And you should grow up and recognize your attempts at threats only =
make
you appear all the more a whiny brat.
Rich
"Gary Britt" <email@from_Gary_Britt.org> wrote in message
news:4384cba8$1@w3.nls.net...
Yes it is legal if handled properly. It would be called fair use, =
and no
I'm not worried about being disbarred. Just like you aren't worried =
about
being fired for your public anti-customer hostile behavior that =
continues to
drive down the opinions of many tech people about your employer and =
its
products. Given your employer's general reputation this kind of =
customer
norelations posting on your part is probably how you get a bigger =
raise. So
why don't you go for the big bucks, and like I said if you think I'm =
doing
something wrong then have your general counsel email me a demand =
letter.
Better yet post it right here in binaries. I waive any claim of =
privacy to
the content of a cease and desist demand letter from your general =
counsel's
office to me on the issue of wanting a method to turn the recovery =
console
set command *on* by testing the use of two files from an XP Pro box. =
Just
make a pdf out of it and post it in binaries for the world to see what =
kind
of petty bullshit you and your employer are all about, or STFU.
You could have avoided all this by just confirming the below =
information
as a regedit change, but that would have required a more customer =
centric
attitude on yours and your employer's part.
What is it about gpedit.msc on XP Home that's got your undies all in =
a
knot? Is that how MS cripples Pro into Home by adjusting some of the =
local
machine policies and deleting a few files? I haven't said anything =
about
trying to turn XP Home into XP Pro, nor do I have the desire to waste =
my
time even considering such an endeavor. I just want a recovery =
console,
which XP Home legally installed on my computer, to be able to access =
all
files and drives and floppys, instead of just two directories, =
windows and
the root directory.
Gary Britt
BTW, to anybody wanting to run a useful recovery console on XP Home, =
make
sure you make the following setting in your registry *BEFORE* you need =
to
use the recovery console:
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows
NT\CurrentVersion\Setup\RecoveryConsole]
"SetCommand"=3Ddword:00000001
The above is from my win2K box. I believe the SetCommand off or on =
value
is at the same location in XP, but you might want to verify that since =
I
haven't had a chance yet.
I still have some unanswered questions and comments on XP from my =
original
post before Rich threadjacked me into his alternate reality. So if =
anyone
cares to go back to my original post and reply to my comments and =
questions
there, it would be appreciated.
Gary
"Rich" <@> wrote in message news:4384bf00@w3.nls.net...
So you don't have an unused Windows XP Professional license. Do =
you
really think what you are proposing is legal. Are you a lawyer? =
Aren't you
concerned about being disbarred for ethical violations?
Your complaining about the best buy offer price is whining. If =
you
want something buy it. If the cost is higher than the value to you =
then
don't. You are free to use any of the many alternatives the very
competitive market makes available to you. If you are unhappy with =
the
cheaper lesser products then complain to those folks that they don't =
make
what you want.
Rich
"Gary Britt" <email@from_Gary_Britt.org> wrote in message
news:4384878e$1@w3.nls.net...
XP Pro is loaded on a computer my wife uses, and I try to avoid =
her
computer
at all costs. On the other hand she's never run or even heard of
gpedit.msc.
It wasn't compusa it was best buy, and complaining about your =
company's
monopoly pricing isn't whining, just recognizing the facts. If =
your
only
point here is to demonstrate just how far downhill Microsoft has =
gone
over
the years, well you continue to perform admirably. If you don't =
have
anything to add to the discussion that's content driven why don't =
you
just
STFU. If your employer feels violated by anything I've written =
then
have
your general counsel email me a demand letter. Otherwise, the old
format
command is looking better and better.
Gary
"Rich" <@> wrote in message news:43847e54@w3.nls.net...
If you have a valid Windows XP Professional license you should
install
Windows XP Professional. I'm surprised you say this after your =
earlier
message whining about the price compusa quoted you.
Rich
"Gary Britt" <email@from_Gary_Britt.org> wrote in message
news:43841068$1@w3.nls.net...
Yes it would be if I thought it was breaking the law. I have =
valid
licenses
for XP Home and XP Pro. Don't you have anything better to do =
than
worry
about someone trying to have a workable recovery console on XP =
Home.
If a
user attempts to have a safer environment from which to run your
products
that's a problem for you and your company? If your so worried =
about
someone
running gpedit.msc on XP Home so they can turn on the set =
commands in
the
recovery console, you could just provide the proper value to set =
for
the
one
or two appropriate keys in the registry.
As for your other question, XP Home is what came with the =
laptop, and
except
for a couple of things its good enough for now. I have never =
used XP
on
one
of my computers. I'm looking at it while considering how to =
handle
moving
my licensed full retail copy of win2k over from my old laptop. =
Your
helpful
interjection into this thread certainly makes me want to invest =
the
time
learning to use your current OS versus just staying with Win2K =
or
going to
Linux and running my Office 2K Apps under Linux.
OH and thanks for answering my questions and trying to improve =
your
company's image with its customers. You're doing a great job.
Gary
"Rich" <@> wrote in message news:4384036b@w3.nls.net...
Isn't it unwise for a lawyer to discuss his breaking the law =
in a
public
forum?
If you want Windows XP Professional why didn't you buy =
Windows XP
Professional?
Rich
"Gary Britt" <email@from_Gary_Britt.org> wrote in message
news:4383ec15$1@w3.nls.net...
I think I've figured out how to hack the registry to get the =
set
command
turned on in the recovery console so I can access everything =
when in
the
recovery console. I've found reference to a technique of =
bringing
over
two
files from an XP Pro machine and registering them with =
regsvr32 that
supposedly allows the gpedit.msc console to run on XP Home. =
Anybody
done
this before?
Gary
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2> Sure you did. You =
tried to=20
justify your copying software licensed for use on your wife's computer = to one
of=20
your computers. One justification you attempted is that best buy =
offered=20
to sell you what you want at a price higher than you wanted to pay, not = that
you=20
offered to pay anything at all. Another is that you tried you = claim
that=20
this would be "fair use". That is quite a stretch. Another=20
justification you have attempted is to disparage the company from whom = you
are=20
stealing possible in an attempt to excuse instead of = justify.
That=20
you have a lack of ethics may or may not be a topic of interest to the=20
bar. That you are so miserable at defending your position and =
repeatedly=20
fall back on threats and insults is something you might want to=20
consider.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Rich</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV>"Gary Britt" <<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:email@from_Gary_Britt.org">email@from_Gary_Britt.org</A>&g=
t;=20
wrote in message <A=20
=
href=3D"news:43854257@w3.nls.net">news:43854257@w3.nls.net</A>...</DIV>I =
never=20
attempt to justify breaking the law Rich, nor have I done so in=20
this<BR>case. I leave the law breaking and justifications =
therefore to=20
you and your<BR>employer Microsoft, or does Microsoft your employer =
and you no=20
longer seek<BR>to justify breaking the anti-trust laws and RICO civil =
and=20
criminal<BR>conspiracy statutes for more than a decade. Your =
employer=20
steals BILLIONS<BR>through its monopolistic practices and violations =
of=20
anti-trust laws, and<BR>its no wonder that a person of such low =
character and=20
moral fiber as<BR>yourself fits right in at the Redmond =
campus.<BR><BR>Before=20
worrying about the spec of dust in my eye, worry about the =
lumbar<BR>yard in=20
yours.<BR><BR>Gary<BR><BR>"Rich" <@> wrote in message <A=20
=
href=3D"news:438527d2@w3.nls.net">news:438527d2@w3.nls.net</A>...<BR>&nbs=
p; =20
It could be called fair use. It could be called hang =
gliding. Do=20
you<BR>typically attempt to justify breaking the law by making up=20
names?<BR><BR> And you should grow up and recognize your =
attempts=20
at threats only make<BR>you appear all the more a whiny=20
brat.<BR><BR>Rich<BR><BR> "Gary Britt" <<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:email@from_Gary_Britt.org">email@from_Gary_Britt.org</A>&g=
t;=20
wrote in message<BR><A=20
=
href=3D"news:4384cba8$1@w3.nls.net">news:4384cba8$1@w3.nls.net</A>...<BR>=
=20
Yes it is legal if handled properly. It would be called fair =
use, and=20
no<BR>I'm not worried about being disbarred. Just like you =
aren't=20
worried about<BR>being fired for your public anti-customer hostile =
behavior=20
that continues to<BR>drive down the opinions of many tech people about =
your=20
employer and its<BR>products. Given your employer's general =
reputation=20
this kind of customer<BR>norelations posting on your part is probably =
how you=20
get a bigger raise. So<BR>why don't you go for the big bucks, =
and like I=20
said if you think I'm doing<BR>something wrong then have your general =
counsel=20
email me a demand letter.<BR>Better yet post it right here in =
binaries. =20
I waive any claim of privacy to<BR>the content of a cease and desist =
demand=20
letter from your general counsel's<BR>office to me on the issue of =
wanting a=20
method to turn the recovery console<BR>set command *on* by testing the =
use of=20
two files from an XP Pro box. Just<BR>make a pdf out of it and =
post it=20
in binaries for the world to see what kind<BR>of petty bullshit you =
and your=20
employer are all about, or STFU.<BR><BR> You could have avoided =
all this=20
by just confirming the below information<BR>as a regedit change, but =
that=20
would have required a more customer centric<BR>attitude on yours and =
your=20
employer's part.<BR><BR> What is it about gpedit.msc on XP Home =
that's=20
got your undies all in a<BR>knot? Is that how MS cripples Pro =
into Home=20
by adjusting some of the local<BR>machine policies and deleting a few=20
files? I haven't said anything about<BR>trying to turn XP Home =
into XP=20
Pro, nor do I have the desire to waste my<BR>time even considering =
such an=20
endeavor. I just want a recovery console,<BR>which XP Home =
legally=20
installed on my computer, to be able to access all<BR>files and drives =
and=20
floppys, instead of just two directories, windows and<BR>the =
root=20
directory.<BR><BR> Gary Britt<BR><BR><BR> BTW, to anybody =
wanting=20
to run a useful recovery console on XP Home, make<BR>sure you make the =
following setting in your registry *BEFORE* you need to<BR>use the =
recovery=20
console:<BR><BR><BR> =20
=
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows<BR>NT\CurrentVersion\Setup=
\RecoveryConsole]<BR> =20
"SetCommand"=3Ddword:00000001<BR><BR> The above is from my win2K =
box. I believe the SetCommand off or on value<BR>is at the same =
location=20
in XP, but you might want to verify that since I<BR>haven't had a =
chance=20
yet.<BR><BR> I still have some unanswered questions and comments =
on XP=20
from my original<BR>post before Rich threadjacked me into his =
alternate=20
reality. So if anyone<BR>cares to go back to my original post =
and reply=20
to my comments and questions<BR>there, it would be =
appreciated.<BR><BR> =20
Gary<BR><BR><BR> "Rich" <@> wrote in message <A=20
=
href=3D"news:4384bf00@w3.nls.net">news:4384bf00@w3.nls.net</A>...<BR>&nbs=
p; =20
So you don't have an unused Windows XP Professional license. Do=20
you<BR>really think what you are proposing is legal. Are you a=20
lawyer? Aren't you<BR>concerned about being disbarred for =
ethical=20
violations?<BR><BR> Your complaining about the =
best=20
buy offer price is whining. If you<BR>want something buy =
it. If=20
the cost is higher than the value to you then<BR>don't. You are =
free to=20
use any of the many alternatives the very<BR>competitive market makes=20
available to you. If you are unhappy with the<BR>cheaper lesser =
products=20
then complain to those folks that they don't make<BR>what you=20
want.<BR><BR> Rich<BR><BR><BR> "Gary Britt" =
<<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:email@from_Gary_Britt.org">email@from_Gary_Britt.org</A>&g=
t;=20
wrote in message<BR><A=20
=
href=3D"news:4384878e$1@w3.nls.net">news:4384878e$1@w3.nls.net</A>...<BR>=
=20
XP Pro is loaded on a computer my wife uses, and I try to avoid=20
her<BR>computer<BR> at all costs. On the other =
hand=20
she's never run or even heard of<BR> =20
gpedit.msc.<BR><BR> It wasn't compusa it was best =
buy, and=20
complaining about your company's<BR> monopoly =
pricing isn't=20
whining, just recognizing the facts. If=20
your<BR>only<BR> point here is to demonstrate just =
how far=20
downhill Microsoft has gone<BR>over<BR> the years, =
well you=20
continue to perform admirably. If you don't =
have<BR> =20
anything to add to the discussion that's content driven why don't=20
you<BR>just<BR> STFU. If your employer feels =
violated=20
by anything I've written then<BR>have<BR> your =
general=20
counsel email me a demand letter. Otherwise, the=20
old<BR>format<BR> command is looking better and=20
better.<BR><BR> Gary<BR><BR> =
"Rich"=20
<@> wrote in message <A=20
=
href=3D"news:43847e54@w3.nls.net">news:43847e54@w3.nls.net</A>...<BR>&nbs=
p; =20
If you have a valid Windows XP Professional license you=20
should<BR>install<BR> Windows XP Professional. =
I'm=20
surprised you say this after your earlier<BR> =
message=20
whining about the price compusa quoted you.<BR><BR> =20
Rich<BR><BR> "Gary Britt" <<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:email@from_Gary_Britt.org">email@from_Gary_Britt.org</A>&g=
t;=20
wrote in message<BR> <A=20
=
href=3D"news:43841068$1@w3.nls.net">news:43841068$1@w3.nls.net</A>...<BR>=
=20
Yes it would be if I thought it was breaking the law. I have=20
valid<BR> licenses<BR> =
for XP=20
Home and XP Pro. Don't you have anything better to do=20
than<BR>worry<BR> about someone trying =
to have a=20
workable recovery console on XP Home.<BR>If=20
a<BR> user attempts to have a safer =
environment=20
from which to run your<BR>products<BR> =
that's a=20
problem for you and your company? If your so worried=20
about<BR> someone<BR> =
running=20
gpedit.msc on XP Home so they can turn on the set commands=20
in<BR>the<BR> recovery console, you =
could just=20
provide the proper value to set for<BR>the<BR> =20
one<BR> or two appropriate keys in the=20
registry.<BR><BR> As for your other =
question, XP=20
Home is what came with the laptop, and<BR> =20
except<BR> for a couple of things its =
good=20
enough for now. I have never used XP<BR>on<BR> =
one<BR> of my computers. I'm =
looking at it=20
while considering how to =
handle<BR>moving<BR> my=20
licensed full retail copy of win2k over from my old laptop. =20
Your<BR> helpful<BR> =20
interjection into this thread certainly makes me want to invest=20
the<BR>time<BR> learning to use your =
current OS=20
versus just staying with Win2K or<BR>going=20
to<BR> Linux and running my Office 2K =
Apps under=20
Linux.<BR><BR> OH and thanks for =
answering my=20
questions and trying to improve your<BR> =
company's image with its customers. You're doing a great=20
job.<BR><BR> =20
Gary<BR><BR><BR> "Rich" <@> wrote =
in=20
message <A=20
=
href=3D"news:4384036b@w3.nls.net">news:4384036b@w3.nls.net</A>...<BR>&nbs=
p; =20
Isn't it unwise for a lawyer to discuss his breaking the law in=20
a<BR> public<BR> =20
forum?<BR><BR> If you =
want=20
Windows XP Professional why didn't you buy Windows=20
XP<BR> =20
Professional?<BR><BR> =20
Rich<BR><BR> "Gary Britt" =
<<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:email@from_Gary_Britt.org">email@from_Gary_Britt.org</A>&g=
t;=20
wrote in message<BR> <A=20
=
href=3D"news:4383ec15$1@w3.nls.net">news:4383ec15$1@w3.nls.net</A>...<BR>=
<BR><BR> =20
I think I've figured out how to hack the registry to get the=20
set<BR>command<BR> turned on =
in the=20
recovery console so I can access everything when=20
in<BR>the<BR> recovery=20
console. I've found reference to a technique of=20
bringing<BR>over<BR> =20
two<BR> files from an XP Pro =
machine=20
and registering them with regsvr32=20
that<BR> supposedly allows =
the=20
gpedit.msc console to run on XP Home. =
Anybody<BR> =20
done<BR> this=20
before?<BR><BR> =20
Gary<BR><BR><BR><BR><BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>
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