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Skriven 2005-12-22 18:19:18 av Rich (1:379/45)
   Kommentar till text 8778 av Mike '/m' (1:379/45)
Ärende: Re: Digital media servers, renderers, and control points.
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   Back to your crappy example of a piece of software available for both =
the mac and Windows being a supposed demonstration of the mac being = ahead of
Windows.  Maybe you want to give an example of something not = available for
Windows.

   Now maybe you want to claim that apple is ahead of the many many =
vendors producing interoperable products like those I mentioned.  If so, = go
ahead and give it a shot and support such a claim.  Maybe if you = tried by
means other than simple assertion you could make a go of it.  I = would suggest
not trying to spin it into either an OS or processor = architecture comparison
like you tried earlier as the standards which = those other products implement
are independent of both and software is = available for a mix of both.

     I'm particularly interested in you supporting your claim "Apple is =
so far ahead of the Wintel world in this space that it isn't funny".  I =
suspect you can't.  This is likely typical mike miller noise.

Rich

  =20
  "Mike '/m'" <mike@barkto.com> wrote in message =
news:qbhmq1p10b1p5pm85qhc5qak0l9k6ppt9t@4ax.com...
  > Just because you aren't aware of them is no reason to deny their =
existance.

  I don't deny their existence, indeed, I acknowledge them.  That's why =
I
  said Apple was ahead.

   /m


  On Thu, 22 Dec 2005 15:45:50 -0800, "Rich" <@> wrote:

  >   Given that the same functionality is available with itunes on =
Windows this makes a pretty crappy mac vs. Windows comparison.
  >
  >   There are plenty of digital media servers and renderers in the =
Windows space with support for more than just audio.  Just because you = aren't
aware of them is no reason to deny their existance.
  >
  >   Unlike the proprietary apple products, there are standards in this =
space so that there is interoperability between servers, renders, and = control
points.  I just noticed one that adam should love since it looks = to be
written in java.  See www.cidero.com.  It shows a screenshot of = its UI using
three different types of servers connecting to three = different types of
renderers.
  >
  >Rich
  >
  >  "Mike '/m'" <mike@barkto.com> wrote in message =
news:kr9mq1d7fftvtub5ht8bkqpta872ct2q6c@4ax.com...
  >
  >
  >  I was visiting a friend a couple of evenings ago, and he has an =
iMac in
  >  his kitchen that plays songs over an Apple Airport Express or two.
  >  http://www.apple.com/airportexpress/  =20
  >
  >  Apple is so far ahead of the Wintel world in this space that it =
isn't
  >  funny. =20
  >   /m
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp; Back to your crappy =
example of a piece=20
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demonstration of the mac being ahead of Windows.&nbsp; Maybe you want to = give
an=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT><FONT face=3DArial =
size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp; Now maybe you want to =
claim that apple=20
is ahead of the many many vendors producing interoperable products like = those
I=20
mentioned.&nbsp; If so, go ahead and give it a shot and support such a=20
claim.&nbsp; Maybe if you tried by means other than simple assertion you =
could=20
make a go of it.&nbsp; I would suggest not trying to spin it into either = an
OS=20
or processor architecture comparison like you tried earlier as the =
standards=20
which those other products implement are independent of both and = software
is=20
available for a mix of both.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; I'm =
particularly=20
interested in you supporting your claim "Apple is so far ahead of the =
Wintel=20
world in this space that it isn't funny".&nbsp; I suspect you = can't.&nbsp;
This=20
is likely typical mike miller noise.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Rich</FONT></DIV>
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  <DIV>"Mike '/m'" &lt;<A =
href=3D"mailto:mike@barkto.com">mike@barkto.com</A>&gt;=20
  wrote in message <A=20
  =
href=3D"news:qbhmq1p10b1p5pm85qhc5qak0l9k6ppt9t@4ax.com">news:qbhmq1p10b1=
p5pm85qhc5qak0l9k6ppt9t@4ax.com</A>...</DIV>&gt;=20
  Just because you aren't aware of them is no reason to deny their=20
  existance.<BR><BR>I don't deny their existence, indeed, I acknowledge=20
  them.&nbsp; That's why I<BR>said Apple was=20
  ahead.<BR><BR>&nbsp;/m<BR><BR><BR>On Thu, 22 Dec 2005 15:45:50 -0800, =
"Rich"=20
  &lt;@&gt; wrote:<BR><BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp; Given that the same =
functionality is=20
  available with itunes on Windows this makes a pretty crappy mac vs. =
Windows=20
  comparison.<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp; There are plenty of digital =
media=20
  servers and renderers in the Windows space with support for more than =
just=20
  audio.&nbsp; Just because you aren't aware of them is no reason to =
deny their=20
  existance.<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp; Unlike the proprietary apple =
products,=20
  there are standards in this space so that there is interoperability =
between=20
  servers, renders, and control points.&nbsp; I just noticed one that =
adam=20
  should love since it looks to be written in java.&nbsp; See <A=20
  href=3D"http://www.cidero.com">www.cidero.com</A>.&nbsp; It shows a =
screenshot=20
  of its UI using three different types of servers connecting to three =
different=20
  types of renderers.<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;Rich<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;&nbsp; "Mike =
'/m'"=20
  &lt;<A href=3D"mailto:mike@barkto.com">mike@barkto.com</A>&gt; wrote =
in message=20
  <A=20
  =
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vtub5ht8bkqpta872ct2q6c@4ax.com</A>...<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;&nbsp;=20
  I was visiting a friend a couple of evenings ago, and he has an iMac=20
  in<BR>&gt;&nbsp; his kitchen that plays songs over an Apple Airport =
Express or=20
  two.<BR>&gt;&nbsp; <A=20
  =
href=3D"http://www.apple.com/airportexpress/">http://www.apple.com/airpor=
texpress/</A>&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
  <BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;&nbsp; Apple is so far ahead of the Wintel world in =
this space=20
  that it isn't<BR>&gt;&nbsp; funny.&nbsp; <BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
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