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Text 8832, 298 rader
Skriven 2005-12-26 20:39:14 av Rich (1:379/45)
   Kommentar till text 8830 av Don Hills (1:379/45)
Ärende: Re: Digital media servers, renderers, and control points.
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From: "Rich" <@>

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   Typical of folks that fear looking foolish you edit away the earlier =
message that demonstrates how foolish you are.   Let's remind everyone =
of how hard you work to avoid staying on topic


    "Rich" <@> wrote in message news:43b01a75$1@w3.nls.net...
       Gee, that's nice.  Care to respond on topic or are you trying a =
diversion because you can't?

    Rich

      "Don Hills" <black.hole.4.spam@gmail.com> wrote in message =
news:LO9rDtgaXewd092yn@attglobal.net...
      In article <43af6503$1@w3.nls.net>, "Rich" <@> wrote:
      >   You make this claim by simple assertion.  You do appear to =
have
      >stepped away from mike millers nonsense of using something =
available for
      >both Windows and the mac to make the assertion that one is ahead =
of the
      >other.  That's a good start.

      Given a choice between something that looks good, works =
intuitively and
      performs adequately, or something that is subtly lacking in design =
flair and
      ease of use even though it is technically superior on paper, it =
was an easy
      decision. I shouldn't have been surprised, I recall making the =
same decision
      on my last PDA purchase - a choice between a Palm OS PDA or a =
Windows CE
      PDA. Come to think of it, my most recent appliance purchase was =
decided the
      same way - I bought a Playstation 2 (new slim version) instead of =
an Xbox.

      --=20
      Don Hills    (dmhills at attglobaldotnet)     Wellington, New =
Zealand

Now, why don't you explain how you personal choice of a PDA and game = console
supports your earlier assertion.  Since you edited that out of = the reply
above, probably to help you hide that your reponse was = completely off topic,
let's remind everyone of that.

    "Rich" <@> wrote in message news:43af6503$1@w3.nls.net...
       You make this claim by simple assertion.  You do appear to have =
stepped away from mike millers nonsense of using something available for = both
Windows and the mac to make the assertion that one is ahead of the = other. 
That's a good start.

       Now all you need to do is support your claim in some way.  How =
many products in this space have you tried?  Can you list the pluses and =
minuses of each that support your claim?

    Rich


      "Don Hills" <black.hole.4.spam@gmail.com> wrote in message =
news:chgrDtgaXutb092yn@attglobal.net...
      In article <43ad8c4a$1@w3.nls.net>, "Rich" <@> wrote:
      >   I don't know why you are changing the topic to DRM.  Maybe =
apple's
      >proprietary protocol includes or mandates DRM.  The UPnP media =
server
      >and rendered protocols I mentioned earlier do not.

      Leaving DRM out of the equation doesn't change my decision. I'm in =
the
      market now, and Apple's offerings have the best "fit and finish" =
of what is
      available here now.

      --=20
      Don Hills    (dmhills at attglobaldotnet)     Wellington, New =
Zealand

Now, maybe you want to stop trolling and support your simple assertion =
compating apple and the other participants in this market.  Please don't = tell
us about your choices of PDAs, watches, or automobile tires.  They = have no
relevant and would just be a further diversion on your part.

Rich

  "Don Hills" <black.hole.4.spam@gmail.com> wrote in message =
news:ixLsDtgaXyDP092yn@attglobal.net...
  In article <43b01a75$1@w3.nls.net>, "Rich" <@> wrote:
  >   Gee, that's nice.  Care to respond on topic or are you trying a =
=3D
  >diversion because you can't?

  It was your diversion. I should know batter than to argue with a =
troll.

  --=20
  Don Hills    (dmhills at attglobaldotnet)     Wellington, New Zealand

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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp; Typical of folks that fear =
looking=20
foolish you edit away the earlier message that demonstrates how foolish =
you=20
are.&nbsp;&nbsp; Let's remind everyone of how hard you work to avoid = staying
on=20
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  <BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr=20
  style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
    <DIV>"Rich" &lt;@&gt; wrote in message <A=20
    =
href=3D"news:43b01a75$1@w3.nls.net">news:43b01a75$1@w3.nls.net</A>...</DI=
V>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp; Gee, that's =
nice.&nbsp; Care to=20
    respond on topic or are you trying a diversion because you=20
    can't?</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#000000 size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Rich</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#000000 size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <BLOCKQUOTE=20
    style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
      <DIV>"Don Hills" &lt;<A=20
      =
href=3D"mailto:black.hole.4.spam@gmail.com">black.hole.4.spam@gmail.com</=
A>&gt;=20
      wrote in message <A=20
      =
href=3D"news:LO9rDtgaXewd092yn@attglobal.net">news:LO9rDtgaXewd092yn@attg=
lobal.net</A>...</DIV>In=20
      article &lt;<A=20
      =
href=3D"mailto:43af6503$1@w3.nls.net">43af6503$1@w3.nls.net</A>&gt;, =
"Rich"=20
      &lt;@&gt; wrote:<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp; You make this claim by simple =

      assertion.&nbsp; You do appear to have<BR>&gt;stepped away from =
mike=20
      millers nonsense of using something available for<BR>&gt;both =
Windows and=20
      the mac to make the assertion that one is ahead of =
the<BR>&gt;other.&nbsp;=20
      That's a good start.<BR><BR>Given a choice between something that =
looks=20
      good, works intuitively and<BR>performs adequately, or something =
that is=20
      subtly lacking in design flair and<BR>ease of use even though it =
is=20
      technically superior on paper, it was an easy<BR>decision. I =
shouldn't=20
      have been surprised, I recall making the same decision<BR>on my =
last PDA=20
      purchase - a choice between a Palm OS PDA or a Windows CE<BR>PDA. =
Come to=20
      think of it, my most recent appliance purchase was decided =
the<BR>same way=20
      - I bought a Playstation 2 (new slim version) instead of an=20
      Xbox.<BR><BR>-- <BR>Don Hills&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; (dmhills at=20
      attglobaldotnet)&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Wellington, New=20
  Zealand</BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></FONT></FONT><FONT face=3DArial=20
  size=3D2></FONT></DIV></DIV></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Now, why don't you explain how you =
personal choice=20
of a PDA and game console supports your earlier assertion.&nbsp; Since = you=20
edited that out of the reply above, probably to help you hide that your =
reponse=20
was completely off topic, let's remind everyone of that.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
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BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
    <DIV><FONT color=3D#008000>"Rich" &lt;@&gt; wrote in message =
</FONT><A=20
    href=3D"news:43af6503$1@w3.nls.net"><FONT=20
    color=3D#008000>news:43af6503$1@w3.nls.net</FONT></A><FONT=20
    color=3D#008000>...</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#008000 size=3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp; You =
make this claim=20
    by simple assertion.&nbsp; You do appear to have stepped away from =
mike=20
    millers nonsense of using something available for both Windows and =
the mac=20
    to make the assertion that one is ahead of the other.&nbsp; That's a =
good=20
    start.</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#008000 size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#008000 size=3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp; Now =
all you need to=20
    do is support your claim in some way.&nbsp; How many products in =
this space=20
    have you tried?&nbsp; Can you list&nbsp;the pluses and minuses of =
each that=20
    support your claim?</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#008000 size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#008000 size=3D2>Rich</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#008000 size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#008000 size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <BLOCKQUOTE=20
    style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
      <DIV><FONT color=3D#008000>"Don Hills" &lt;</FONT><A=20
      href=3D"mailto:black.hole.4.spam@gmail.com"><FONT=20
      color=3D#008000>black.hole.4.spam@gmail.com</FONT></A><FONT=20
      color=3D#008000>&gt; wrote in message </FONT><A=20
      href=3D"news:chgrDtgaXutb092yn@attglobal.net"><FONT=20
      =
color=3D#008000>news:chgrDtgaXutb092yn@attglobal.net</FONT></A><FONT=20
      color=3D#008000>...</FONT></DIV><FONT color=3D#008000>In article =
&lt;</FONT><A=20
      href=3D"mailto:43ad8c4a$1@w3.nls.net"><FONT=20
      color=3D#008000>43ad8c4a$1@w3.nls.net</FONT></A><FONT =
color=3D#008000>&gt;,=20
      "Rich" &lt;@&gt; wrote:<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp; I don't know why you =
are=20
      changing the topic to DRM.&nbsp; Maybe apple's<BR>&gt;proprietary =
protocol=20
      includes or mandates DRM.&nbsp; The UPnP media server<BR>&gt;and =
rendered=20
      protocols I mentioned earlier do not.<BR><BR>Leaving DRM out of =
the=20
      equation doesn't change my decision. I'm in the<BR>market now, and =
Apple's=20
      offerings have the best "fit and finish" of what is<BR>available =
here=20
      now.<BR><BR>-- <BR>Don Hills&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; (dmhills at=20
      attglobaldotnet)&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Wellington, New=20
      Zealand</FONT></FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Now, maybe you want to stop trolling =
and support=20
your simple assertion compating apple and the other participants in this =

market.&nbsp; Please don't tell us about your choices of PDAs, watches, = or=20
automobile tires.&nbsp; They have no relevant and would just be a=20
further&nbsp;diversion on your part.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Rich</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT><FONT face=3DArial =
size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
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  <DIV>"Don Hills" &lt;<A=20
  =
href=3D"mailto:black.hole.4.spam@gmail.com">black.hole.4.spam@gmail.com</=
A>&gt;=20
  wrote in message <A=20
  =
href=3D"news:ixLsDtgaXyDP092yn@attglobal.net">news:ixLsDtgaXyDP092yn@attg=
lobal.net</A>...</DIV>In=20
  article &lt;<A=20
  href=3D"mailto:43b01a75$1@w3.nls.net">43b01a75$1@w3.nls.net</A>&gt;, =
"Rich"=20
  &lt;@&gt; wrote:<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp; Gee, that's nice.&nbsp; Care to =
respond=20
  on topic or are you trying a =3D<BR>&gt;diversion because you =
can't?<BR><BR>It=20
  was your diversion. I should know batter than to argue with a =
troll.<BR><BR>--=20
  <BR>Don Hills&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; (dmhills at=20
  attglobaldotnet)&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Wellington, New=20
Zealand<BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>

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