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Text 9224, 295 rader
Skriven 2006-01-15 16:29:18 av Rich Gauszka (1:379/45)
   Kommentar till text 9214 av Rich (1:379/45)
Ärende: Re: New Intel Macs
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From: "Rich Gauszka" <gauszka@hotmail.com>

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Actually people here are saying that a portion of the customer base = would be
better served without such a restrictive OS license.  You are = attempting to
portray  MS as some sort of innocent bystander in these = licensing agreements.
Yes, MS has a right to mandate these restrictions  = just as I, as a consumer,
have a right to be displeased by them.=20

=20
  "Rich" <@> wrote in message news:43caa304@w3.nls.net...
     If customers assign value to the choices emachine does not make, as =
the folks here claim to, they would be competing better by better = serving
these customers.  It's all emachines choice.

  Rich

    "Rich Gauszka" <gauszka@hotmail.com> wrote in message =
news:43c9e273$1@w3.nls.net...
    Sure they have a choice. They can choose to compete in the commodity =
PC market  by accepting the MS solution or not.  It's a business = decision
that's more a necessity than a 'choice'. =20

      "Rich" <@> wrote in message news:43c9d6d0@w3.nls.net...
         Only if you redefine incentive to mean choice.

      Rich

        "Rich Gauszka" <gauszka@hotmail.com> wrote in message =
news:43c95883@w3.nls.net...
        and MS doesn't offer 'incentives' so that eMachines will make =
that choice? =20

        "Rich" <@> wrote in message news:43c954da@w3.nls.net...
             It sure is important.  You claimed that replacing the =
computer but keeping the case is the keeping the same computer.  You = really
do need to have a firm basis in reality if you want to make a = point.

             The choice you continue to whine about is one made by =
emachines.  You should be whining to them.  But of course no one expects = you
to.  You will likely continue to whine.

          Rich


            "Geo" <georger@nls.net> wrote in message =
news:43c933e8$4@w3.nls.net...
            Not incapable, unimportant to my point that tying Windows =
license to the hardware is proof that Microsoft is just as draconian.

            Geo.
              "Rich" <@> wrote in message news:43c92b7f@w3.nls.net...
                 "motherboard, case, what's the difference",  Are you =
seriously incapable of distinguishing?

                 If you are unhappy with emachines, whine to emachines.

              Rich

                "Geo" <georger@nls.net> wrote in message =
news:43c8849b$4@w3.nls.net...
                Motherboard, case, what's the difference, pick which you =
want to call the computer. The point is if I buy software I expect to be =
allowed to run that software on one computer, if my old computer dies I =
expect to be able to replace the hardware and run the same software on = one
computer.=20

                Change that model, force me to buy new software every =
time I buy a new computer, an suddenly it gets a lot easier to move to =
another platform like Mac or Linux.

                Geo.
                  "Rich" <@> wrote in message =
news:43c7e440@w3.nls.net...
                     I doubt it was tied to that individual motherboard =
or even that type of motherboard.

                     BTW, are we all to be pretending that the case is =
the computer and the motherboard an accessory instead of the reality.

                  Rich


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<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Actually people here are saying that a portion of =
the customer=20
base&nbsp;would be better served without such a restrictive OS =
license.&nbsp;=20
You are attempting to portray&nbsp; MS as some sort of innocent = bystander
in=20
these licensing agreements. Yes, MS has a right to mandate these=20
restrictions&nbsp; just as I, as a consumer, have a right to be = displeased
by=20
them. </FONT></DIV>
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  <DIV>"Rich" &lt;@&gt; wrote in message <A=20
  =
href=3D"news:43caa304@w3.nls.net">news:43caa304@w3.nls.net</A>...</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp; If customers assign =
value to the=20
  choices emachine does not make, as the folks here claim to, they would =
be=20
  competing better by better serving these customers.&nbsp; It's all =
emachines=20
  choice.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Rich</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr=20
  style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
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    <DIV>"Rich Gauszka" &lt;<A=20
    href=3D"mailto:gauszka@hotmail.com">gauszka@hotmail.com</A>&gt; =
wrote in=20
    message <A=20
    =
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    <DIV><FONT size=3D2>Sure they have a choice. They can choose to =
compete in the=20
    commodity PC market &nbsp;by accepting the MS solution or=20
    not.&nbsp;&nbsp;It's a business decision that's more a necessity =
than a=20
    'choice'.&nbsp; </FONT></DIV>
    <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr=20
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      <DIV>"Rich" &lt;@&gt; wrote in message <A=20
      =
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      <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp; Only if you redefine =
incentive=20
      to mean choice.</FONT></DIV>
      <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
      <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Rich</FONT></DIV>
      <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
      <BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr=20
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        <DIV>"Rich Gauszka" &lt;<A=20
        href=3D"mailto:gauszka@hotmail.com">gauszka@hotmail.com</A>&gt; =
wrote in=20
        message <A=20
        =
href=3D"news:43c95883@w3.nls.net">news:43c95883@w3.nls.net</A>...</DIV>
        <DIV><FONT size=3D2>and MS doesn't offer 'incentives' so that =
eMachines=20
        will make that choice?&nbsp; </FONT></DIV>
        <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
        <DIV>"Rich" &lt;@&gt; wrote in message <A=20
        =
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          <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp; It sure is =
important.&nbsp;=20
          You claimed that replacing the computer but keeping the case =
is the=20
          keeping the same computer.&nbsp; You really do need to have a =
firm=20
          basis in reality if you want to make a point.</FONT></DIV>
          <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
          <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp; The =
choice&nbsp;you continue=20
          to whine about is one made by&nbsp;emachines.&nbsp; You should =
be=20
          whining to them.&nbsp; But of course no one expects you =
to.&nbsp; You=20
          will likely continue to whine.</FONT></DIV>
          <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
          <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Rich</FONT></DIV>
          <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
          <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
          <BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr=20
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            <DIV>"Geo" &lt;<A=20
            href=3D"mailto:georger@nls.net">georger@nls.net</A>&gt; =
wrote in=20
            message <A=20
            =
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            <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Not incapable, unimportant =
to my point=20
            that tying Windows license to the hardware is proof that =
Microsoft=20
            is just as draconian.</FONT></DIV>
            <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
            <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Geo.</FONT></DIV>
            <BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr=20
            style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: =
5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
              <DIV>"Rich" &lt;@&gt; wrote in message <A=20
              =
href=3D"news:43c92b7f@w3.nls.net">news:43c92b7f@w3.nls.net</A>...</DIV>
              <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp; =
"motherboard, case,=20
              what's the difference",&nbsp; Are you seriously incapable =
of=20
              distinguishing?</FONT></DIV>
              <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
              <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp; If you are =
unhappy with=20
              emachines, whine to emachines.</FONT></DIV>
              <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
              <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Rich</FONT></DIV>
              <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
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                <DIV>"Geo" &lt;<A=20
                href=3D"mailto:georger@nls.net">georger@nls.net</A>&gt; =
wrote in=20
                message <A=20
                =
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                <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Motherboard, case, =
what's the=20
                difference, pick which you want to call the computer. =
The point=20
                is if I buy software I expect to be allowed to run that =
software=20
                on one computer, if my old computer dies I expect to be =
able to=20
                replace the hardware and run the same software on one =
computer.=20
                </FONT></DIV>
                <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
                <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Change that model, =
force me to buy=20
                new software every time I buy a new computer, an =
suddenly it=20
                gets a lot easier to move to another platform like Mac =
or=20
                Linux.</FONT></DIV>
                <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
                <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Geo.</FONT></DIV>
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                  <DIV>"Rich" &lt;@&gt; wrote in message <A=20
                  =
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                  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp; I doubt =
it was tied=20
                  to that individual motherboard or even that type of=20
                  motherboard.</FONT></DIV>
                  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
                  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp; BTW, are =
we all to=20
                  be pretending that the case is the computer and the=20
                  motherboard an accessory instead of the =
reality.</FONT></DIV>
                  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
                  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Rich</FONT></DIV>
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