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Text 9559, 148 rader
Skriven 2006-02-05 16:22:26 av John Oellrich (1:379/45)
   Kommentar till text 9534 av Geo (1:379/45)
Ärende: Re: U.K. court rules patent claim invalid
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From: "John Oellrich" <john@oellrich.us>

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Geo.,

The US Gov may have the largest number may have the largest number of =
Blackberrys, but I doubt that they are paying anywhere near what you or = I
would. They would be on GAO price list which is brutal to get on to, = both
from a price and support requirement perspective. When I was a = product
manager at AT&T I would regularly turn down GAO pricing requests = for my
products from the Government accounts team. One of the major = reasons I would
do so is that you had to grant the GAO best pricing = status without the GAO
making any volume commitment. So if I only got 1 = sale off the GAO pricelist I
would have to give them the same price as I = gave a commercial customer that
committed to buying 20,000 units. And = they are now the only one that won't
get turned off in the Blackberry = suit.

But back to Blackberry users, RIM also seems to have done a very nice = job
penetrating upper and executive management, and these are the folks = that are
really in an uproar.

--=20
john

john@oellrich.us
  "Geo" <georger@nls.net> wrote in message news:43e55d6b$3@w3.nls.net...
  The biggest users of blackberry's are the us government, spending =
other
  people's money..

  While I have your attention can I ask a question, is there a reason =
you are
  responding to everything using html? (instead of using the format of
  whatever you are responding to). Just wondering if this is on purpose =
or
  just something you hadn't noticed.

  Geo.

  "John Oellrich" <john@oellrich.us> wrote in message
  news:43e553fb$1@w3.nls.net...
  Geo.,

  As Don pointed out, right now they basically have a lock on the market =
and a
  market that is very willing to pay the premium. When you have a lock =
on a
  market you charge as much as the market will bare, salt away a good =
portions
  of the revenues, because that premium will disappear when somebody =
comes up
  with the "faster, cheaper" alternative.

  --=20
  john

  john@oellrich.us


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<DIV>Geo.,</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>The US Gov may have the largest number may have the largest number =
of=20
Blackberrys, but I doubt that they are paying anywhere near what you or = I
would.=20
They would be on GAO price list which is brutal to get on to, both from = a
price=20
and support requirement perspective. When I was a product manager at = AT&amp;T
I=20
would regularly turn down GAO pricing requests for my products from the=20
Government accounts team. One of the major reasons I would do so is that = you
had=20
to grant the GAO best pricing status without the GAO making any volume=20
commitment. So if I only got 1 sale off the GAO pricelist I would have = to
give=20
them the same price as I gave a commercial customer that committed to =
buying=20
20,000 units. And they are now the only one that won't get turned off in =
the=20
Blackberry suit.</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>But back to Blackberry users,&nbsp;RIM also&nbsp;seems to&nbsp;have =
done a=20
very nice job penetrating upper and executive management, and these are =
the=20
folks that are really in an uproar.</DIV>
<DIV><BR>-- <BR>john</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><A href=3D"mailto:john@oellrich.us">john@oellrich.us</A></DIV>
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  <DIV>"Geo" &lt;<A =
href=3D"mailto:georger@nls.net">georger@nls.net</A>&gt; wrote=20
  in message <A=20
  =
href=3D"news:43e55d6b$3@w3.nls.net">news:43e55d6b$3@w3.nls.net</A>...</DI=
V>The=20
  biggest users of blackberry's are the us government, spending=20
  other<BR>people's money..<BR><BR>While I have your attention can I ask =
a=20
  question, is there a reason you are<BR>responding to everything using =
html?=20
  (instead of using the format of<BR>whatever you are responding to). =
Just=20
  wondering if this is on purpose or<BR>just something you hadn't=20
  noticed.<BR><BR>Geo.<BR><BR>"John Oellrich" &lt;<A=20
  href=3D"mailto:john@oellrich.us">john@oellrich.us</A>&gt; wrote in =
message<BR><A=20
  =
href=3D"news:43e553fb$1@w3.nls.net">news:43e553fb$1@w3.nls.net</A>...<BR>=
Geo.,<BR><BR>As=20
  Don pointed out, right now they basically have a lock on the market =
and=20
  a<BR>market that is very willing to pay the premium. When you have a =
lock on=20
  a<BR>market you charge as much as the market will bare, salt away a =
good=20
  portions<BR>of the revenues, because that premium will disappear when =
somebody=20
  comes up<BR>with the "faster, cheaper" alternative.<BR><BR>--=20
  <BR>john<BR><BR><A=20
href=3D"mailto:john@oellrich.us">john@oellrich.us</A><BR><BR></BLOCKQUOTE=
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