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Skriven 2005-03-22 00:47:11 av Howie Coombe
     Kommentar till en text av John Hull
Ärende: GASOLENE PRICES ???
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Dear John i will reply tothis later.

 > 18 Mar 05 23:41, Howie Coombe wrote to John Hull:
 > 
 >>> HC> I do not know either but i would suggest that $75.?? is not out 
 >>> HC> of the
 > 
 >>>  Its all BS,
 > 
 > 
 >HC> It is?.
 > 
 >>> too.
 > 
 > 
 >HC> Aha.
 > 
 >>> Every bit of it is political.
 > 
 > 
 >HC> How do you know this?.
 > 
 > Because it doesn't suddenly cost more to pump a barrel of crude oil. 
 >  This price rise is artificially induced to create more profit, and 
 > has nothing to do with normal supply and demand forces.
 > 
 >>> Plus,
 > 
 > 
 >HC> Yes?.
 > 
 >>> nearly half the price of a gallon of gas here is tax.
 > 
 > 
 >HC> I Did not know and/or remember this.
 > 
 >>>>> OPEC says they aren't at fault;
 > 
 >>> HC> And they are not, there major members are, mind you there major 
 >>> HC> members
 > 
 >>>  None of those countries is restricted in what they can or can't 
 >>> produce.
 > 
 > 
 >HC> I think that is incorrect.
 > 
 > You think some dude has a gun at the head of the Oil Minister 
 > telling him how much oil he can pump today?  Use your head.
 > 
 >>> The power of OPEC is only realized when ALL the members cooperate as 
 >>> a       
 >>> > single unit.
 > 
 > 
 >HC> Perhaps but there is more then 1 way to get a unanimous vote that 
 >HC> is not in fact to everyones advantage.
 > 
 > The purpose of a cartel is to control prices to the advantage of 
 > everyone IN the cartel.  Unless ALL members follow suit, the cartel 
 > is not doing its job.
 > 
 >>>>> that USA hasn't built an additional processing refinary to meet 
 >>>>> the
 > 
 >>> HC> Yes i have heard that too, and of course being so blind in my 
 >>> HC> hatred  
 > 
 >>> Why would I lie to you,
 > 
 > 
 >HC> Did i say you lied?, no i suggested you have misconceved me, 
 >HC> whether or not that is on porpose is questionable.
 > 
 >>> Howie?
 > 
 > 
 >HC> Ego?, Vanity?, Patriotism?, Ideology?.
 > 
 >>> Absolutely nothing in it for me to do so.
 > 
 > 
 >HC> See Above.
 > 
 > No, Howie, there's no conspiracy going on here.  I don't care enough 
 > about you to lie to you.  What you think has absolutely no bearing 
 > on what happens here anyway.  I'm not lying to you because I don't 
 > lie.  Its that simple.
 > 
 >>>>> Others try to blame increased Asian consumption.
 > 
 >>>  There is no shortage of crude oil.
 > 
 > 
 >HC> Yes there is, particularly when one considers the speed with which 
 >HC> man extracts it.
 > 
 > No, there isn't.  Estimates of total world supply put it somewhere 
 > around 300 years worth, if you figure in all potential sources.  
 > There is at least that much high grade coal as well.  We will have 
 > solved our fuel problem, in all likelihood, long before 500 years 
 > goes by.
 > 
 >>> Our problems here are due to the fact that we can't process it any 
 >>> faster    
 >>> > than we are because we don't have enough refinery capacity 
 >>> > anymore.
 > 
 > 
 >HC> And that is because human nature is such that the more refinery 
 >HC> capacity you have, the faster you can prosess it, the faster you 
 >HC> want to process it.
 > 
 > No, that's because a bunch of tree hugging assholes have thrown up 
 > so many bogus legal roadblocks that the oil companies can't afford 
 > to build any new ones.
 > 
 >>> Every refinery we have is working full tilt and all the big storage 

 > HC> Which is as it should be.

 > You can't do maintenance when the plant is running full tilt.

 >>> HC> Which is also a probable part explanation.

 >>>>> Whats happening in your neighborhood?

 >>> HC> The last sign i saw was $1.10/Litre which i think is not dissimiler.

 >>>  That's over $4.00 a gallon, nearly twice what ours runs.

 > HC> Yes it is, and you guys think you have it bad?.

 >  Yeah, actually we do. Let's not forget that it was America that discovered 
> uses for crude oil that bubbled up out of the earth, and drilled the first  
> oil well in western Pennsylvania in the 1850's (look up Edwin Drake). We    
> discovered how to make kerosene from it, which saved the world's remaining  
> population of whales. We discovered how to make use of the major by-product 
> of making kerosene - gasoline! We built the first oil refinieries. Most of  
> the world's major oil fields have been discovered, developed, and run by    
> American oil men and engineers. And most of the innovations in oil field    
> equipment technology come from America. I'd say we've more than earned the  
> right to have cheap gasoline considering what we've given the world. John   
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