Text 11078, 81 rader
Skriven 2005-04-05 18:13:33 av John Hull (1:379/1.99)
  Kommentar till text 11070 av Al Jacobs (1:396/17.0)
Ärende: THE ECOSYSTEM
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05 Apr 05 06:52, Al Jacobs wrote to John Hull:

 AJ> Hello John Hull,

 JH>> Man is part of this planet, part of the ecosystem.  If we abuse
 JH>> it and cause a problem, we get to pay the piper. 

 AJ> That's essentially what the Millennium Ecosystem Assessment said. 
 AJ> It goes in to far greater detail, however. 

 JH>> We run the same risk of becoming extinct as any other species.  

 AJ> The same risk?  What standard are you using to claim "same risk"?
 AJ> Many species have already become extinct.  Just guessing here, but 
 AJ> others will likely be extinct before the year's out. 

Yeah, the same risk as any other advanced species that has evolved.  Old
species die out and new ones take their place.  That is the cycle and its been
working just fine for millions of years.

 JH>> It won't be the first time, and it certainly won't be the last.

 AJ> You believe in reincarnation?  

No.  Nobody is talking about reincarnation, either.

 JH>> The vast majority of the misuse and abuse of the world's resources 
 JH>> are not in this country, but in the third world, and its due to 
 JH>> the use of old and outdated technology.  

 AJ> How does your claim compare to the findings of the Millennium 
 AJ> Ecosystem Assessment?  

Who cares?  Its not a claim either.  Its what the people behind Kyoto don't
want anybody to know about.  Its the dirty little secret of the environmental
movement.

 JH>> The key to stopping it is the use of new, cutting edge technology 
 JH>> which allows more efficient use of resources and most of that is 
 JH>> coming from the US and the industrialized Western democracies.  

 AJ> How do you feel about corporate ownership of rivers, seas and 
 AJ> ocean waters?  Do you think the U.N. is comprised of representatives of
 AJ> the middle and lower classes of the world?  Or do you think the 
 AJ> U.N. is comprised of representatives backed by well-monied corporate
 AJ> interests?  Are you under the impression that the "Millennium 
 AJ> Ecosystem Assessment" represents the voice of a grassroots 
 AJ> movement of bohemians, hippies, socialists and communists?  If so, do you 
 AJ> think they might be used as pawns by corporate interests who have 
 AJ> something to gain by the privatization of scarce and threatened 
 AJ> resources? 

Screw the UN.  I support throwing the UN out of the United States and of the
United States getting out of the UN, and have contributed money to that cause.
And yes, most of the countries that belong to the UN are third world.  What's
your point?

 JH>> Guess which countries will be hurt the most by such things as 
 JH>> the Kyoto Accords?  Guess which countries will get the biggest 
 JH>> breaks under Kyoto?

 AJ> What has this to do with the report presently being discussed?

What it has to do with it is that all those poor countries, under Kyoto, get
huge deferments on what they have to spend to clean up their air, water, and
environment, and first and second tier countries like the US and Japan and
Britain have to foot the bill, which will bankrupt those countries.  If WE go
down, then all the technology and R&D in how to clean up the mess goes with us.
 

Between the tree huggers, Bambi lovers, green party whackos, and other
liberals, mankind will be lucky to survive the next 500 years, let alone a
couple of millenia.

John 

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