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Text 12113, 99 rader
Skriven 2005-04-23 22:43:32 av Ed Hulett (1:123/789.0)
  Kommentar till text 12097 av TIM RICHARDSON (1:123/140)
Ärende: Off to the Wilderness
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TIM RICHARDSON -> JOHN MASSEY wrote:
 TR> On 04-23-05, JOHN MASSEY said to ED HULETT:



 SD>>>> It's okay.  Someday, a ham will save their bacon from being cooked
 SD>>>> (sorry, couldn't resist the pun) and once again, the ham will get
 SD>>>> immense satisfaction from helping a fellow citizen whilst those two
 JM>>> cry
 SD>>>> about licensing.


 SD>>>> Ignorance is bliss. :)


 EH>> We hams aren't easily offended. We do things for people without
 EH>> expecting anything in return. We do it because we are the only ones who
 EH>> can mobilize in a short time frame. Every time there has ever been an
 EH>> emergency hams have been there to help with communications. IF it
 TR> hadn't
 EH>> been for hams both in and around the area of the tsunami and all over
 EH>> the world, communications in and out of that devastated area would have
 EH>> been non-existant.


 EH>> Save your lectures for someone who cares.


 JM>> And you save your holier than thought shit for someone that can be
 JM>> intimidated.


 JM>> If you hams weren't around someone else would be. Nature abhors a
 TR> vacuum.


 JM>> Your precious hams could be replaced.


 TR> Yup! With people who just want to have the enjoyment of communicating with
 TR> others several thousand miles away, or in foreign countries, without going
 TR> through all that licensing bullshit, studying for tests, being able to
 TR> quote a
 TR> technical manual verbatum, etc, etc!


 TR> Thats a bunch of bullshit. You don't need to be a *ham* operator in
 TR> order to
 TR> be of help in a time of disaster. I've seen civilians pick up police radio
 TR> microphones and summon help for a cop who was hurt or in trouble. *They*
 TR> didn't have a license, or all kinds of testing behind them to do it,
 TR> either.

In an emergency you can use any means to get help. No one said that one needs a
license in such a situation.

Hams come into play when communication from and to areas hit by a disaster such
as storm, earth quake, etc. *AFTER* the initial emergency HAMs are the only
people who can offer communications between aid workers and the local and
distant authorities.

CNN International had a stroy on the role HAM operators played and are playing
in the aftermath of the tsunami in the Indian Ocean. Without those HAMs there
would be no communications. They are able to mobilize and setup stations much
faster than any government agency. That is why HAM radio is relied on by FEMA
and local EOCs during emergencies.


 TR> If I was `really' interested in ham radio, I'd buy the equipment, set up a
 TR> `station' and do it. And wouldn't go through all that bullshit to do it,
 TR> either. If nobody liked it, tough.

Hahahahahahaha!!!

The FCC would be at your door in short order. You'd end up having to pay  a
large fine, forfieting your equipment and jail time.

 TR> The cost of real good equipment is prohibitive to me, as well as a place
to
 TR> set up the antenna needed. I have interests in other areas. But ham radio
 TR> would be fun. I just wouldn't go through all that licensing crap. You
don't
 TR> need a license to learn `code'. You can get that out of a book, or even
off
 TR> the internet, I bet.

You don't learn CW from a book.

There are no "pirate" ham stations because the FCC is dilligent in shutting
down idiots who think they "don't need no steenking license."

You'd not be able to have your bootleg station up in *ANY* country since all
countries require a license. Oh, and you'd never again be elligible for a HAM
license.

Ed

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