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Skriven 2005-04-23 23:36:00 av TIM RICHARDSON (1:123/140)
     Kommentar till en text av ED HULETT
Ärende: Off to the Wilderness
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On 04-23-05, ED HULETT said to TIM RICHARDSON:

EH>TIM RICHARDSON -> JOHN MASSEY wrote:
TR> On 04-23-05, JOHN MASSEY said to ED HULETT:



SD>>>> It's okay.  Someday, a ham will save their bacon from being cooked
SD>>>> (sorry, couldn't resist the pun) and once again, the ham will get
SD>>>> immense satisfaction from helping a fellow citizen whilst those two
JM>>> cry
SD>>>> about licensing.


SD>>>> Ignorance is bliss. :)


EH>> We hams aren't easily offended. We do things for people without
EH>> expecting anything in return. We do it because we are the only ones who
EH>> can mobilize in a short time frame. Every time there has ever been an
EH>> emergency hams have been there to help with communications. IF it
TR> hadn't
EH>> been for hams both in and around the area of the tsunami and all over
EH>> the world, communications in and out of that devastated area would have
EH>> been non-existant.


EH>> Save your lectures for someone who cares.


JM>> And you save your holier than thought shit for someone that can be
JM>> intimidated.


JM>> If you hams weren't around someone else would be. Nature abhors a
TR> vacuum.


JM>> Your precious hams could be replaced.


TR> Yup! With people who just want to have the enjoyment of communicating
EH>with TR> others several thousand miles away, or in foreign countries,
EH>without going TR> through all that licensing bullshit, studying for tests,
EH>being able to TR> quote a
TR> technical manual verbatum, etc, etc!


TR> Thats a bunch of bullshit. You don't need to be a *ham* operator in
TR> order to
TR> be of help in a time of disaster. I've seen civilians pick up police
EH>radio TR> microphones and summon help for a cop who was hurt or in
EH>trouble. *They* TR> didn't have a license, or all kinds of testing behind
EH>them to do it, TR> either.

EH>In an emergency you can use any means to get help. No one said that one
EH>needs a license in such a situation.

EH>Hams come into play when communication from and to areas hit by a disaster
EH>such as storm, earth quake, etc. *AFTER* the initial emergency HAMs are
EH>the only people who can offer communications between aid workers and the
EH>local and distant authorities.

EH>CNN International had a stroy on the role HAM operators played and are
EH>playing in the aftermath of the tsunami in the Indian Ocean. Without those
EH>HAMs there would be no communications. They are able to mobilize and setup
EH>stations much faster than any government agency. That is why HAM radio is
EH>relied on by FEMA and local EOCs during emergencies.


TR> If I was `really' interested in ham radio, I'd buy the equipment, set up
a TR> `station' and do it. And wouldn't go through all that bullshit to do
EH>it, TR> either. If nobody liked it, tough.

EH>Hahahahahahaha!!!

EH>The FCC would be at your door in short order. You'd end up having to pay
EH>a large fine, forfieting your equipment and jail time.

TR> The cost of real good equipment is prohibitive to me, as well as a place
EH>to
TR> set up the antenna needed. I have interests in other areas. But ham radio
TR> would be fun. I just wouldn't go through all that licensing crap. You
EH>don't
TR> need a license to learn `code'. You can get that out of a book, or even
EH>off
TR> the internet, I bet.

EH>You don't learn CW from a book.

EH>There are no "pirate" ham stations because the FCC is dilligent in
EH>shutting down idiots who think they "don't need no steenking license."

EH>You'd not be able to have your bootleg station up in *ANY* country since
EH>all countries require a license. Oh, and you'd never again be elligible
EH>for a HAM license.


Yeah, yeah. Whatever.


Listen, you are trying to tell me that you can't go out on the internet and
find information that will enable you to operate a ham radio station, the same
internet where you  can find the information that will tell you how to
construct a powerful bomb? You can find the information you need in a local
library, or probably even at a local Radio Shack.


What is so friggin' special about ham radio operators that sets them apart
from someone who operates an ordinary CB radio (except the limitations of
distance on a CB radio)?


I've had CB radio's in my semi's that I also had bi-linears hooked up to, and
was reaching out there a `very' long ways. I had a 150 watter, and was on the
verge of going to a 500 watter when I quit trucking, back in the early
`eighties'. After I quit trucking, I hooked my Cobra up in my Chevy pickup,
and used to talk to people up in the LA area sometimes, and I was down here in
the San Diego area.


There used to be a puke bastard up on the Dallas that had a CB with a
bi-linear hooked up to it that `stepped' on any channel he wanted to step on
for over a hundred miles in all directions. And he was stationary! No FCC ever
did anything about him. And nobody could shut him up, either.


There was another puke bastard in Virginia who had the same sort of hookup,
only even more powerful. You could hear this puke's big mouth clear up in
Pennsylvania, and over in some parts of Kentucky! The FCC never shut him down,
either.


I didn't need a license for my CB, I bought it over the counter, installed it
and operated it myself. And for the FCC to `find' you, you first have to be
*broadcasting*. If you only `listen' there's no way for them to find you.


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