Text 12738, 133 rader
Skriven 2005-05-19 18:26:45 av John Hull (1:379/1.99)
  Kommentar till text 12737 av LEE LOFASO (1:123/140)
Ärende: yep, they want peace
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19 May 05 17:14, LEE LOFASO wrote to JOHN HULL:

 LL> Hello John,

 >>AH>JERUSALEM ? Marking Israel's Independence Day, the Palestinians
 >>AH>yesterday he mass anti-Israel rallies, released a new music video
 >>AH>mourning the "catastrop of the Jewish state, broadcast sermons
 >>AH>denying the Holocaust and heard a national address by Palestinian
 >>AH>Authority President Mahmoud Abbas calling Israel's creation a
 >>AH>"crime."

 >>LL>Well, it's true.  The world took away Palestinian land and gave it
 >>LL>to the Jews.  Not that Jews had any right to it.  Except for Jews
 >>LL>who had already been there for generations.  However, it was
 >>LL>EUROPEAN JEWS who wanted that land for themselves, at the expense 
 >>LL>of the indigenous peoples who lived in Palestine.

 JH>>BS.  The ancestors of today's Jews lived there long before there 
 JH>>were any su things as Palestinians, and long before there was any 
 JH>>such thing as muslims. No other group can trace its ancestry far 
 JH>>enough back to even come close to having any ownership of that land 
 JH>>other than the Jews.

 LL> The ancestors of Jews were nomads living in the desert.  No
 LL> different than other nomads living in the desert, except for
 LL> the god(s) they worshipped.  In other words, nothing more
 LL> than a tribe.  One tribe of many.

 LL> The Jews moved into Palestine upon the death of Moses, who
 LL> showed them "the promised land".  The land was already populated
 LL> when the Jews moved in.  And, according to the Bible, the Jews
 LL> were to share that land, being that the land did not belong to
 LL> them.

 >>LL>Think about it.  There are two groups of peoples who live in
 >>LL>Palestine today - Jews and Palestinians.  And there are peoples of
 >>LL>three faiths - Jews, Christians, and Muslims.  But the Jews want 
 >>LL>ALL the land for themselves.  And that is why there will never be 
 >>LL>peace in that part of the world.

 JH>>That's another lie.  They have Israel and that's all they want.  
 JH>>There will never be peace because the Palestinians, and people who 
 JH>>support them like yo have vowed to exterminate the Jews no matter 
 JH>>what.

 LL> The Jews have Israel, which they stole from the Palestinians, 
 LL> one-third
 LL> of Gaza, which they stole from the Palestinians, scores of illegal
 LL> settlements in the West Bank, which they stole from the 
 LL> Palestinians,
 LL> along with the illegal annexation of the Golan Heights, which 
 LL> belongs
 LL> to Syria.

 >>LL>How did Jews come to populate Palestine before Israel became a
 >>LL>state?  Through ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION.  And then, BEFORE the United
 >>LL>Nations granted Israel a state of their own, at the expense of the
 >>LL>indigenous Palestinian population, the Jews declared Israel to be 
 >>LL>a state!

 JH>>Better go back and read history, Lee, because that's another lie.

 LL> Most Jews illegally made their way into Palestine during British 
 LL> rule.

 >>AH>Tens of thousands gathered in the West Bank and Gaza, shouting
 >>AH>slogans such "Death to Israel" and "Destroy the Zionists," in a 
 >>AH>day of "mourning" for wha Palestinians call the "Nakba," or 
 >>AH>catastrophe of the formation of Israel on 15, 1948.

 >>LL>The Arabs and the Jews.  Why can't the two peoples live together
 >>LL>in peace?  Because the Jews want everything for themselves, no
 >>LL>matter what the cost.

 JH>>Horsecrap.  When one side vows to exterminate you, you have every 
 JH>>right to d whatever is necessary to prevent that.  Muslims have 
 JH>>given up any claim they might have to that area simply because of 
 JH>>the desire to murder innocent peop who happen to be on another 
 JH>>religion.

 LL> The Jews have been doing a very good job of exterminating 
 LL> Palestinians.
 LL> One day, the Palestinians will return the favor.  Probably with 
 LL> help
 LL> from other Arabs.

 >>LL>Yep.  The Jews want peace all right.  At the expense of the
 >>LL>Muslims and the Christians.

 JH>>Only Muslims are attacking other religions in that region.

 LL> A few years ago, a Jewish guy by the name of Goldstein walked into
 LL> a mosque and murdered a bunch of Muslims as they were praying.  
 LL> Today,
 LL> Jews set flowers upon Goldstein's grave and worship him as a hero.

 LL> And then, not too long ago, some Jewish guy assassinated a Jewish
 LL> prime minister, who worked so hard for peace between Israelis and
 LL> Palestinians.  Imagine that.  Jew killing Jew.  Who'da thunk it?

 JH>>If anyone deserves extermination, its muslims.

 LL> There are 7 million Muslims in America.  Should we line them all
 LL> up in front of a firing squad and have them shot?  Or maybe we can
 LL> save ammunition by building gas chambers.  Or perhaps we can just
 LL> put them on a table, one by one, and give each of them a 
 LL> three-drug
 LL> cocktail, commonly known today as lethal injection.  And then, 
 LL> once
 LL> we are finished with Muslims in America, we can move on to Muslims
 LL> in other parts of the world...

You know what, I don't give a damn what you think, Lee.  Jews aren't calling
for a religious war against everybody who isn't jewish, and they aren't sending
suicide bombers into crowded restaurants to kill innocent arabs, and they
haven't vowed to exterminate anybody.  Arabs (muslims) in general use every
opportunity that comes along to call for jihad against non-muslims (Zarqawi
just today said it was OK to kill muslim women and children if they got in the
way of the jihad), and the Palestinians still haven't taken back their vow to
exterminate the jews.  

So, I will side with the jews and Israel every time over any muslim (arab,
Iraqi, whatever) and will gladly advocate killing muslims if that is what it
takes to save the jews from extermination - up to and including muslim
sympathizers.

John 

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