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Skriven 2005-05-29 21:44:05 av John Hull (1:379/1.99)
  Kommentar till text 13057 av Gary Braswell (1:123/789.0)
Ärende: Washington "Mod-squad"
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29 May 05 21:56, Gary Braswell wrote to John Hull:

 John Hull ->> Gary Braswell wrote:
 JH>> 28 May 05 18:32, Gary Braswell wrote to John Hull:

 JH>>  John Hull ->> Gary Braswell wrote:
 JH>>>> 27 May 05 23:10, Gary Braswell wrote to John Hull:

 JH>>>>  John Hull ->> THURSTON ACKERMAN wrote:
 JH>>>>>> 26 May 05 23:30, THURSTON ACKERMAN wrote to LEE LOFASO:

 TA>>>>>>>>> The recent success of the Washington "Mod-Squad" of 
 TA>>>>>>>>> moderate Senators avoidance of a Congressional freeze-up by 
 TA>>>>>>>>> the minority Democrats, displays which tail is wagging the 
 TA>>>>>>>>> dog these days in the Congress at least.

 LL>>>>>>>> Hooray for Senator Landrieu (D-LA) and all 14 Senators who
 LL>>>>>>>> stood up for America!

 TA>>>>>>>>> We Democratrs should really worry that Senator John McCain
 TA>>>>>>>>> may become the Republic presidental candidate in 2008!

 LL>>>>>>>> A Vietnam War Hero running for President?  Gosh.  Didn't we
 LL>>>>>>>> have the chance to elect one of those Vietnam War heroes 
 LL>>>>>>>> last time around? Oh.  I get it.  McCain is a REPUBLICAN 
 LL>>>>>>>> Vietnam War Hero...

 TA>>>>>>> But he is a rarity; a Republican who thinks of someone other
 TA>>>>>>> than himself!  Kinda reminds me of Ike the more I think about 
 TA>>>>>>> it all!

 JH>>>>>> John McCain isn't qualified to be president, and he sure as 
 JH>>>>>> hell is no Eisenhower!

 GB>>>>> While I would agree McCain is not Eisenhower, but then neither 
 GB>>>>> is Bush, or is that the yardstick for being qualified to be
 GB>>>>> President?

 JH>>>> McCain can't hold a candle to Bush, and before you start, I 
 JH>>>> don't care if you like everything Bush does or not.  The 
 JH>>>> difference is that Bush has stood up for the things he believes 
 JH>>>> in and made no compromises in doing so.  McCain turned tail and 
 JH>>>> stepped back from the fight when Reid and the rest of them 
 JH>>>> snarled.  Bush will stay the course, and ultimately win the war.

 GB>>> McCain has stood up for things he believes in too, they just may
 GB>>> not all be lock-in-step with the party line.

 JH>> Don't give me that crap.  What McCain stood up for was to allow 
 JH>> the Democrats to run roughshod over the Constitution.  The rules 
 JH>> on filibusters have been changed 7 times over the two hundred odd 
 JH>> years the Senate has been running, so there is NO rule or tradition 
 JH>> or anything else that prevents the rules being changed again.  
 JH>> There has never, in the 216 years since the Constitution was 
 JH>> adopted, been a filibuster of an appellate level judicial 
 JH>> appointee, and for the Dems to say otherwise is simply a lie.  
 JH>> McCain and his crew bought Reid's bullshit hook, line, and sinker.  
 JH>> The rules change by Frist would have stopped the Democrats from 
 JH>> violating their constitutional obligation on an up or down vote 
 JH>> for presidential nominees.

 GB> For some reason you don't read my posts well. I said he had stood 
 GB> for things he believes in, he did it when he ran for President and 
 GB> it cost him.

 GB> As for your hyperbole above, if he stood up for the Democrats, he 
 GB> would have agreed with them and tried to broker no compromise.

He hasn't got the gumption to change parties.  And all the fine rhetoric aside,
the only one he stood up for was John McCain.  Oh, he made a lot of pretty
speeches, but it was all PR garbage.


 JH>> You can't possibly be that stupid, Gary, to think that the 
 JH>> Democrats entered into that agreement out of any honorable or 
 JH>> altruistic motives.

 GB> Hey John, newsflash for ya. I don't trust either party. Its always 
 GB> the party first.

You bet, and that's just the way it ought to be.  The party is the entity that
gives the little schmucks like us the power to get those things we believe in
enacted into law.  Party first?  Hell yes, and the more partisan the better!

 GB> If the Democrats break the agreement, then they will suffer for 
 GB> it.


 JH>> They are desperate to keep Republicans from appointing strict
 JH>> constructionist (or originalists, if you prefer) judges who will 
 JH>> counter their attempts to make liberalism the defacto legal state 
 JH>> of mind at the federal level.

 GB> I am well aware of the motives behind all this, John.


 JH>> Less than a week after entering into that much ballyhooed 
 JH>> agreement, Reid and his cronies violated it, and political talking 
 JH>> heads on radio, TV, and the internet have been talking about it 
 JH>> non-stop.

 GB> I know.

You keep saying that, and yet you keep supporting "moderates."  Simply defies
reason.

John 

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